AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[Mr Oblong]

If its meandering around the level of 3080, both beating one another in select cases, its a great achievement to get from a 5700XT to this. They need to have stock and it be around £600 then its job done.

Realistically, even being in stock reliably for £700 would be quite a strong proposition until 2021, don't you think?

 

[humbug]

Big if true

https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1319372044035907614?s=19

Big

 

[Kirby Wurm]

If its meandering around the level of 3080, both beating one another in select cases, its a great achievement to get from a 5700XT to this. They need to have stock and it be around £600 then its job done.

Absolutely. If they have stock then £650 would be fine too, seeing as 3080 isn't really available and certainly not at the RRP.

 

[Soapysage]

Big

Which will be the N21XT, the one AIBs now have access to, so the 72CU variant is half way between the 3080 and 3090, leaving the N21XTX, the 80CU variant to take the crown.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Realistically, even being in stock reliably for £700 would be quite a strong proposition until 2021, don't you think?

Yes I know but even for AMD lovers, if nvidia can charge £649 for their 'flagship' card, considering they do have the usual suspects I dont need to mention in the locker for proprietary reasons, the streaming thing + the noise cancellation thing; then they cant and would be stupid to price at the same or above.

They need to offer more than the card if they want to go that route, possibly a big game bundle and other sweeteners maybe?

 

[KentMan]

Which will be the N21XT, the one AIBs now have access to, so the 72CU variant is half way between the 3080 and 3090, leaving the N21XTX, the 80CU variant to take the crown.

If its sat between those 2 cards it wont be cheap, which means the 6900 will be ridiculously priced hahah.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Big if true

https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1319372044035907614?s=19

I don't know enough about how they approached the feature implementations in Time Spy - I'd hope some of the shader refinements gave an improvement in performance from FSU to Time Spy compared to RDNA 1 but I can't be sure.

Ok.. building a scenario here.
Below are stats for Rx 5700 xt
FSU 6060
TS 9334
Source: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_rtx_3080_founder_review,27.html

Rx 6800 xt (assumed)
FSU 11500
TS 18600 (5% increased scaling)

RTX3080 TS 17832
RTX3090 TS 20144
Source: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-rtx-3090-founder-review,27.html

 

[Mr Oblong]

Yes I know but even for AMD lovers, if nvidia can charge £649 for their 'flagship' card, considering they do have the usual suspects I dont need to mention in the locker for proprietary reasons, the streaming thing + the noise cancellation thing; then they cant and would be stupid to price at the same or above.

They need to offer more than the card if they want to go that route, possibly a big game bundle and other sweeteners maybe?

I get you. It's just hard to see 3080s sold for £750 and up and think that AMD, if they've got good supply, will happily lob them out for £600 or less.

AMD were a bit bold in pricing Zen 3, let's see what they reckon here...

 

[EastCoastHandle]

6800xt, allegedly

 

[Soapysage]

Ok.. building a scenario here. Below are stats for Rx 5700 xt
FSU 6060
TS 9334
Source: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_rtx_3080_founder_review,27.html

Rx 6800 xt (assumed)
FSU 11500
TS 18600 (5% increased scaling)

RTX 3090 FE = FSU 12376, TS 20144

 

[Nablaoperator]

RTX 3090 FE = FSU 12376, TS 16796

I was only looking at the TS graphics score

 

[Soapysage]

I was only looking at the TS graphics score

Ah oops, looked at wrong bit yeah, 20144.

 

[Grim5]

RTX 3090 FE = FSU 12376, TS 16796

This is why Port Royal is just a great 3D bench cause the CPU and RAM doesn't really matter. Hopefully RDNA 2 cards can run Port Royal

 

[Nablaoperator]

snip

 

[Rroff]

6800xt, allegedly

Going by the angles and spread on those memory traces that is quite a big core probably - 480-530mm2.

(Those kind of traces are done in a specific way for signal routing reasons to protect against interference, etc.)

EDIT: Dunno where the 6800xt bit comes from though - the source only mentions 6000 series.

 

[Satchfanuk]

Pic of Potentially a Big Navi Partner Board on Videocardz https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-navi-21-engineering-board-photo-leaked

Nvidia fanboys be like - "Ha!!! Only 2 x 8 pin power connectors... LAME!!!!!"

 

[Grim5]

Nvidia fanboys be like - "Ha!!! Only 2 x 8 pin power connectors... LAME!!!!!"

Nah they're like "16 phase VRM, what happened to the super efficient 200w nvidia killer big navi"

 

[harney]

i am getting excited

 

[Satchfanuk]

6800xt, allegedly

Which AIBs use dual bios setups? I can see what looks like a bios switch on there. Could be from a few different AIB partners I guess.

 

[gpuerrilla]

AMD were a bit bold in pricing Zen 3, let's see what they reckon here...

I followed Ryzen but didnt upgrade till 3000 series. AMD built the cores and speed gradually refining it, they offered the zen and zen+ cheaper till they caught intel. This is the same approach I think they will do with Radeon, they cant charge the same till its the same performance and even then they only got bolder with Zen this time as it is purely better than intel and the mindshare is now established (took them a while to grow it).