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You sound like a grumpy old man just now with your "I don't like change!" attitude. Companies love people like you who will buy regardless of anything but hey it's your money.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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You sound like a grumpy old man just now with your "I don't like change!" attitude. Companies love people like you who will buy regardless of anything but hey it's your money.
Soldato
The "hardware enthusiast" side of me wants a Radeon purely to change from Nvidia for a bit of fun. Not really that arsed how amazing it is or isn't as long as it's close.
Raytracing is still a while from being the norm.
Raytracing is still a while from being the norm.
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And thats being generous as there are many other makes (AIB's) charging well into 700's and into 800's. So to use a real world price the £649 is now mythical folklore and likely never be attainable ever.Well at least you get it @LePhuronn \o/
AMD can just price this at £599 and its game,set, match RDNA2.
Mythical yet someone got one 4 days ago on the owners thread
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I personally don't think they can, the process certainly isn't cheap along with the generous GDDR6 amount. If they match the 3080 at 650 or a little more I think that'll be enough personally.
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Lllllllllllladdiess and gentlemen...
They are between a rock and a hard place then. The hard place is the price set by nvidia in the rush to be first setting £649 as the benchmark. Doing this they have done us a favour as the line drawn in the sand.
GDDR6 isnt as expensive as the nvidia custom VRAM, and their coolers are way more expensive to produce so I would like to know why you think they cannot undercut?
They are between a rock and a hard place then. The hard place is the price set by nvidia in the rush to be first setting £649 as the benchmark. Doing this they have done us a favour as the line drawn in the sand.
GDDR6 isnt as expensive as the nvidia custom VRAM, and their coolers are way more expensive to produce so I would like to know why you think they cannot undercut?
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If you've been buying AMD cards exclusively in recent years, you've been turning down higher performing Nvidia cards. What's the difference?
I am a grumpy old man though.
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I own a 1080Ti, before that I had a 390X. I buy what is best for the money when I buy it. There's no point in being loyal to a brand, they won't be loyal to you.
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I said about a month ago, as soon as AMD started threatening Nvidia performance (and it's performance full stop, not 'rasterization performance only', I'm not playing in to Nvidia's game), those that worship at the altar of Nvidia would switch the convo to 'RT' and 'DLSS'.
Laughable really, when those two features combined are in a grand sum of 2% of all games on the market whereas performance of the card is there regardless.
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even the 3080 and 3090 is going to struggle at 4k with RT. its improved over the 2080ti but its no where near good enough for full out GFX and RT on at 4k. in another few gens it might be, but now its just a feature that most wont use. They will want smooth game play and higher FPs at 100hz 4k res.The 3090 is to expensive, and will be out dated soon as NV go to a smaller node, when they do that you will see the 3090ti and 3080ti wipe the floor with current versions. if RDNA2 6900XT can come close to 3090 with out RT and AMD keep the price sensible then it becomes the obvious choice for many.
If it can also do RT above 2080ti levels even a better deal it becomes for those who want RT.
4 more days and all will be revealed
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Mythical yet someone got one 4 days ago on the owners thread
..please.. have you been under a rock for the past 4 weeks? Go check the queue threads and the people that started at position 170, they shipped out 20 units, and they are now position 165 in the queue...
Also this is on point:
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I'm unsure what kind of yields they're getting on the updated 7nm process, would be useful to know and hopefully it's quite high to keep the pricing down!
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Well, here is how I am going to 'try' and approach it all.
1) I was suckered in by what I consider a pricky darn slick presentation by Nvidia for the Ampere announcement. So I will allow myself to say 'wow' then give myself a few days to process it.
2) I will watch AMD's announcement and let myself do the same as Nvidia's if that's the case, give them a fair chance.
3) Actually take a look myself at the cards, then performance and NOT look at BS claims as '2x perf' when Nvidia were specfically referring to ONLY RTX situations. So... I expect AMD to do the same crap move, and compare perf against there old cards with RT ON or some other marketing trick.
Just give myself time to process it all when I'm not really invested 100% in GPU, since life goes on.
1) I was suckered in by what I consider a pricky darn slick presentation by Nvidia for the Ampere announcement. So I will allow myself to say 'wow' then give myself a few days to process it.
2) I will watch AMD's announcement and let myself do the same as Nvidia's if that's the case, give them a fair chance.
3) Actually take a look myself at the cards, then performance and NOT look at BS claims as '2x perf' when Nvidia were specfically referring to ONLY RTX situations. So... I expect AMD to do the same crap move, and compare perf against there old cards with RT ON or some other marketing trick.
Just give myself time to process it all when I'm not really invested 100% in GPU, since life goes on.
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..please.. have you been under a rock for the past 4 weeks? Go check the queue threads and the people that started at position 170, they shipped out 20 units, and they are now position 165 in the queue...
Also this is on point:
What on earth are you babbling on about? You said £649 is mythical, owners thread 4 days ago someone added a FE which is £649
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This thread is full of people who will still buy big navi even if it's slightly inferior to ampere.
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If it's regardless of anything they are just as bad, but I see a lot of people saying it depends on pricing and performance just like it does for me.
I want an excuse to buy big navi for sure but that's just because of Nvidia and their blatant nonsense regarding Ampere's launch. I will buy it if the price/performance fits but if not then I will either stick with my 1080Ti or go Ampere. I don't expect any special treatment from either company so I look out for me.
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