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*** AMD "Navi 3X" (RDNA 3 discussion thread) ***

Maybe it will be supported by Navi 3x?

"The Video Electronics Standards Association (VESA ) announced today that it has published the Embedded DisplayPort (eDP) Standard version 1.5. Replacing eDP 1.4b, published in 2015, eDP 1.5 retains all key features of the previous specification while adding additional capabilities and performance. These include an improved panel self-refresh protocol coupled with enhancements to VESA's Adaptive-Sync protocol, a combination that results in added power savings and improved motion image quality.

For devices such as laptop PCs with an embedded display, eDP is the electrical interface for transporting video data from the system's graphics hardware to the internal display panel. eDP is widely adopted for larger, higher-resolution displays as it provides the highest resolutions, refresh rates and color depths using a low wire count with low EMI radiation. Enhancements to the eDP standard have continued since its introduction more than 10 years ago, thanks to contributions by major OEMs through the VESA organization. eDP applications include laptops, all-in-one PCs, premium tablets, automotive displays, and other systems that incorporate a display panel with a video or graphics video source.

Improving power optimization

As with the previous spec version, eDP 1.5 supports panel self-refresh, a key power-saving feature in the standard. With panel self-refresh, static screen images are stored in the display memory while other parts of the system enter a low-power standby state. The system can momentarily awaken to update all or part of the display as needed. This offers significant power savings in typical PC or tablet usage applications. The panel self-refresh function was further optimized in eDP 1.5 with the addition of an enhanced Panel Replay protocol that provides even more power savings as well as improved display performance, including compatibility with Adaptive-Sync.

Other new protocols developed for eDP 1.5 include the ability to disable the display interface during normal operation (when not using panel self-refresh) during the vertical blanking period, which provides added power savings. eDP 1.5 also adds protocol support for new panel types, such as certain organic light emitting diode (OLED) panels, that feature extended display persistence and, thus, low refresh capability, without the need for a frame buffer.

Improving gaming and media playback performance

While eDP has long supported Adaptive-Sync for power saving and frame rate control for gaming, eDP 1.5 adds new Adaptive-Sync capabilities. For the playback of movies or video streaming, a new protocol was added to allow small frame rate adjustments to prevent skipping or repeated frames. For panels with a wide frame rate capability deployed in gaming systems, new mechanisms were added to reduce display flicker.

As with the previous spec version, eDP 1.5 continues to support the utilization of VESA's DisplayHDR and DisplayHDR True Black specifications - bringing vivid, life-like high dynamic range (HDR) content with the high color and contrast accuracy assured by these standards to embedded display applications."

VESA Publishes Embedded DisplayPort Standard Version 1.5 | TechPowerUp
 
Now a real GPU with MCM that is out :-

https://wccftech.com/amd-instinct-m...a-4x-increase-in-fp16-performance-over-mi100/

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500W.... it is only a dual gpu on one chip. Yes I know CDNA 2 and not RDNA 3... Now you know why the new 600w (really 635w max on the 16pin connector) connectors as I stated in this thread :- https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/rx-7900xt-15-360-cores-mcm-tapeout-q4.18933812/

People said no way will cards get this high in power use, even when I worked out that the cards will be 600w-ish at this rate.:rolleyes: I even worked out the 7900xt as they state will use 630w if true on 5nm. So funny how these 16pin connectors are rated to 635w.;)
 
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I think the top Navi 31 graphics card should not draw more than 320 watts.
Everything above puts too much stress and additional requirements for the power supply units, cases, cooling.

And technically there is no need to, unless the competition has something better and the overclocked versions are inevitable.

Navi 21 has only 5120 shaders.
Navi 31 will have 15360 shaders.
 
I think the top Navi 31 graphics card should not draw more than 320 watts.
Everything above puts too much stress and additional requirements for the power supply units, cases, cooling.

And technically there is no need to, unless the competition has something better and the overclocked versions are inevitable.

Navi 21 has only 5120 shaders.
Navi 31 will have 15360 shaders.


320w will never happen on 15360 shaders even on 5nm. Unless they basically cap the power and lose 25%-50% performance doing that depending how power effects it, could be way less too may come down to a 10% loss. Who knows till they come out.. These cards will start at 400-450w for sure.
 
320w will never happen on 15360 shaders even on 5nm. Unless they basically cap the power and lose 25%-50% performance doing that depending how power effects it, could be way less too may come down to a 10% loss. Who knows till they come out.. These cards will start at 400-450w for sure.

It sure doesn't work like that. Overclocking results in minor performance improvements. Maybe 10% max going from 320 watts to 450 watts.
They have to stress on the efficiency and sweet spot part of the curve.

Leave the overclock to those who explicitly need it, not for everyone out of the boxes.
 
Now a real GPU with MCM that is out :-

https://wccftech.com/amd-instinct-m...a-4x-increase-in-fp16-performance-over-mi100/

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500W.... it is only a dual gpu on one chip. Yes I know CDNA 2 and not RDNA 3... Now you know why the new 600w (really 635w max on the 16pin connector) connectors as I stated in this thread :- https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/rx-7900xt-15-360-cores-mcm-tapeout-q4.18933812/

People said no way will cards get this high in power use, even when I worked out that the cards will be 600w-ish at this rate.:rolleyes: I even worked out the 7900xt as they state will use 630w if true on 5nm. So funny how these 16pin connectors are rated to 635w.;)


Yep next year we'll see the true hambeasts - flagships from Nvidia and AMD using 4 slot coolers with 500w to 600w tdp, powered by single PCIE 5 power cable
 
I think the top Navi 31 graphics card should not draw more than 320 watts.
Everything above puts too much stress and additional requirements for the power supply units, cases, cooling.

Nothing wrong with balls to the wall power requirements as long as the performance is there. Instinct are compute cards, gamer kidz need not apply.

As for gaming cards, always will be a card for your power budget.
 
Nice to see an MCM design from AMD. I mean we kept hearing about it over the years, but now it is finally happening. Looking forward next gen Radeon GPU’s :)
 
Update at the bottom of the page, they are still on 7nm, 500 Watt TDP. which is mental for a GPU on 7nm with 14,080 Cores, so not quite 3X a 6900XT, just 2.8X :eek:

Update: ExecutableFix has posted more information and it looks like the Instinct MI200 lineup will include two variants, a standard MI250, and a MI250X. According to the details, the MI250X will get 110 CUs per die (220 CUs in total), 128 GB HBM2e memory, a 500W TDP and will be based on 7nm.

Now a real GPU with MCM that is out :-

https://wccftech.com/amd-instinct-m...a-4x-increase-in-fp16-performance-over-mi100/

DgHkC4l.png

fRUoK9V.jpg

89TABWY.jpg

LxnH4vn.jpg



500W.... it is only a dual gpu on one chip. Yes I know CDNA 2 and not RDNA 3... Now you know why the new 600w (really 635w max on the 16pin connector) connectors as I stated in this thread :- https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/rx-7900xt-15-360-cores-mcm-tapeout-q4.18933812/

People said no way will cards get this high in power use, even when I worked out that the cards will be 600w-ish at this rate.:rolleyes: I even worked out the 7900xt as they state will use 630w if true on 5nm. So funny how these 16pin connectors are rated to 635w.;)
 
600w flagship GPUs

power supply manufacturers and water cooling manufacturers everywhere rejoice!


Mini-ITX case owners in tears
 
I will never ever buy a 600 watt GPU even less so now that the price on electricity are going through the roof.
I don't think I could deal with the noise, or the hassle of plumbing it in to the fridge freezer.

As it is, my 3060-Ti pumps out a surprising amount of heat. I mean, almost scorching hot. I'm glad I didn't get anything more power hungry! There's a limit to what normal air cooling can deal with. I guess that's why you see modern "gamer" cases with literally 20 fans (all RGB, naturally).
 
I don't think I could deal with the noise, or the hassle of plumbing it in to the fridge freezer.

As it is, my 3060-Ti pumps out a surprising amount of heat. I mean, almost scorching hot. I'm glad I didn't get anything more power hungry! There's a limit to what normal air cooling can deal with. I guess that's why you see modern "gamer" cases with literally 20 fans (all RGB, naturally).

Undervolt your poor card, underclock it as well.
 
I don't think I could deal with the noise, or the hassle of plumbing it in to the fridge freezer.

As it is, my 3060-Ti pumps out a surprising amount of heat. I mean, almost scorching hot. I'm glad I didn't get anything more power hungry! There's a limit to what normal air cooling can deal with. I guess that's why you see modern "gamer" cases with literally 20 fans (all RGB, naturally).

I remember the days when I ran an FX8350@ 5,1ghz and Crossfire HD7950(idiotic combo IMHO but my i7 920 had died and I was outta cash). Man even when it was cold outside the room was insanely hot. Since then I swear never again will I listen to a Corsair h100i screaming under the pressure of so much heat or suffer through that much heat being dumped into the room. I want quiet and efficient and I don't want any surprises when I get the power bill :P considering that I'm paying 0,28 pounds per kWh. So I get you. My 6700XT is surprisingly average though. I don't think my entire system(b450, ryzen 3600) when under load ever goes over 300 Watts and it does just fine at 1440p.
 
What? No, completely wrong. I've been mini-ITX for over a decade now and I can confidently say that nearly all good mini-ITX cases will handle such a card and the required PSU.

The other mini-ITX case contains the rest of the system.

How would you fit a long and fat card into a mini-ITX case? :confused:
 
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