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AMD on the road to recovery.

oh that's right AMD hit $122 today, market cap of $145 Billion.

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A strong outlook for 2022.

Tying It All Up
Based on how the quarter has proceeded, it is exceedingly likely that AMD will ship $300M-$400M incremental EPYC revenues in enterprise and datacenter, $100M to $200M incremental revenues in GPUs, and about $50M incremental console sales between the new Steam Deck console, and existing PS5 and Xbox consoles. In other words, AMD could potentially ship between $450M to $650M in incremental revenues compared to Q2.

On a $3.85B Q2 baseline, this suggests revenue potential between $4.3B to $4.5B in revenues as opposed to $4.1B in guidance. As such, it is possible that AMD had much more demand, and ship more, especially on the data center CPU and client GPU fronts. The challenge for AMD is not product demand but if AMD has the supply to meet the demand.

A nice revenue beat is only half the story. The other half of the story is gross margins. Keen readers may have noticed that much of the incremental Q3 revenue discussed above comes with juicy margins. AMD’s margins on EPYC and MI200 GPU are much higher than the corporate average. Thanks to insatiable crypto demand and elevated GPU prices, GPU margins are also likely to be healthy. Considering the mix involved, Q3 gross margin is likely to be at least 100 basis points above guidance.

Guidance For 2022 And Beyond
As strong as Q3 likely was, AMD’s strong product offerings for servers, clients, and consoles mean that AMD is likely to continue to grow rapidly – especially in the data center where its products are most advantaged. This will drive strong revenues and strengthen margins for the foreseeable future. Note also that the Xilinx (NASDAQ:XLNX) acquisition is expected to close before the end of the year and all future estimates will have to include Xilinx contributions. And Xilinx’s average margins are much higher than AMD’s and could push up AMD’s combined gross margin by a few hundred basis points. Thanks to organic margin growth and a kicker from Xilinx, AMD should comfortably deliver 50%+ gross margins in 2022. As such, in 2022, it is highly likely that AMD’s gross margins will surpass Intel’s gross margins. If Xilinx acquisition closes before the end of the month, it is possible that AMD’s gross margin could cross Intel’s gross margin in Q4 itself.

In summary, AMD is set to deliver a strong beat and raise. AMD is in a period of explosive revenue and gross margin growth, and the Company’s valuation should continue to expand meaningfully going forward.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4461703-amd-q3-earnings-beat-and-raise-ahead
 
Would it be possible?

I think so yes.

Intel has fallen below $50, from $56 a couple of days ago, they are predicted to have lost significant data centre sales to AMD, which is why they are up.

Is AMD's Xilinx acquisition goes through they will get an instant and significant revenue and margins boost, they could overtake Intel's Margins and market cap soon, AMD currently at $150 Billion with Margins at 48% to Intel's 56% margins and $200 Billion market cap.

Intel's revenues are still at around $75 Billion to AMD's $20 Billion, but, and here is why those margins matter so much to investors, if they aren't above a certain level you're not actually making any capital, it doesn't matter what your revenues are, you're just surviving, for AMD at 35% margins they weren't making any money. I don't know where Intel's lower limits are but their margins are in free-fall.

AMD currently have about $5 Billion in capital banked.

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How do we know AMD won't do the same if they manage to get themselves into the same position that Intel were a few years back?. In all likelihood they would be more than happy too when you look at their lastest GPU the 6600 which is 5% faster than a 5600XT yet costs 18% more even at the MSRP and in their CPU line up they've done away with the non X Sku's forcing consumers to pay up to 50% extra in some cases for an X version.

Back in the early 2000's AMD's market share was 50% to Intel's 50%, their CPU's were still cheaper, they were still innovating.
 
20 years ago Intel had gathered huge capital from the prior 20 years monopoly and spent billions, perhaps even 10's of billions, a vast sum in those days to pay OEM's not to use AMD CPU's, AMD was on the cusp of becoming thie dominant player, so Intel shut them down, illegally.

If you're not selling CPU's you're not making any money, that's when AMD's problems started.
 
That was a different AMD and even they have admitted that they don't want to be known as the budget brand anymore.

Judging by the AMD greed and pricehikes with just one year of domination I can't even begin to imagine how bad AMD would become with say 10 years of domination. Probably would make Intel at it's worst look like a consumer friendly company.

Take a quick look at what they did with Far cry 6. The current AMD is as ugly as they come. Offering a company your allegiance is one of the dumbest things you can do.

You know why they did this? its not possible to survive as the "Budget brand" that term is sets off cogitations of bad products in peoples minds, AMD are reacting to the market, they don't want that cancerous label.
 
To expand on that X86 isn't going anywhere long term but but it will shrink with large internet of things providers looking to make their own custom ARM designs, ARM its self and AMD eating in to Intel's market shares its becoming an increasingly unreliable source of revenue, Intel got to where they are from 90%+ CPU market share.

In the blink of an eye that could be down to 60% share on much reduced margins, and it wont stop there, Intel must and i think have realised their grip on CPU's markets is already slipping away and it will keep slipping away, this is not 2002 there is nothing they can do about it.
 
ADL itself could be seen as their first step towards heterogeneous architectures, imagine x86+ARM (or risc V!) mixed cores CPUs, with the future keeping an X86 "chiplet" or "tile" for compatibility and other cores for performance.


The may call it a heterogeneous architecture but its not, not really, at least not yet, i know this is where they are heading and they keep talking like they are already there but they really arent.

AMD did it a decade ago, but no one was interested. Maybe now its time has come.


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Financials are in.

2021 Q3 Revenue: $4.31 Billion.
Gross profit: $2.086 Billion.
Margin: 48%
Operating expenses: $1.41 Billion
Operating income: $948 Million

Revenue was up 54 percent year-over-year and 12 percent quarter-over-quarter driven by higher revenue in both the Computing and Graphics segment and Enterprise, Embedded and Semi-Custom segment.

AMD saw increased adoption of AMD EPYC processors in the third quarter.
  • Argonne National Labs selected AMD EPYC processors to power a new supercomputer, known as Polaris, to allow scientists and developers to test and optimize software codes and applications for AI, engineering, and scientific projects.
  • Google Cloud announced the public preview of N2D Virtual Machines powered by AMD EPYC™ 7003 Series processors.
  • AMD announced that 2nd Gen AMD EPYC CPUs and AMD Radeon Pro V520 GPUs will power new sizes for Amazon EC2 G4ad instances, giving customers the flexibility to provision resources on demand, as needs dictate, rather than being limited to their inventory of physical, on-premise hardware.
  • Cloudflare chose 3rd Gen AMD EPYC processors for its 11th Gen servers, which power the company’s DNS network.
  • Customer adoption of Ryzen processors expanded, with Lenovo starting shipments of the Ryzen-based Thinkbook and Thinkpad E series business laptops featuring Windows 11 , Lenovo announcing the Ryzen-powered Yoga Slim 7 Carbon and Yoga Slim 7 Pro, HP releasing two AiO devices with Ryzen processors and ASUS unveiling the Ryzen 5000 Series-based Zenbook, Zenbook PRO, ProArt StudioBook and VivoBook.
  • AMD launched Ryzen 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors with Radeon Graphics, bringing high-performance integrated graphics and powerful features to satisfy the most demanding gamers, creators and enthusiasts.
  • AMD launched the Radeon RX 6600 XT graphics card, designed to deliver high-framerate, high-fidelity 1080p gaming experiences. Built on breakthrough AMD RDNA™ 2 gaming architecture, the graphics card offers on average 11 percent higher gaming performance with Smart Access Memory enabled across a range of popular titles compared to the competition.
  • AMD announced availability of the Radeon PRO W6000X series GPUs for Mac Pro, harnessing the high-performance AMD RDNA 2 architecture, AMD Infinity Cache and other advanced technologies to power demanding professional design and content creation workloads.
  • AMD was named by Forbes as one of the World’s Best Employers of 2021.
  • AMD announced its 26th annual Corporate Responsibility Report highlighting AMD’s accomplishments from the previous year and unveiling new goals through 2025 and 2030, including a new goal to increase energy efficiency of processors running AI training and high performance computing applications 30x by 2025.

https://ir.amd.com/financial-information
 
AMD should take a page out Nvidia's and diversify it's manufacturing. I know they still use Global Foundries for some stuff but for logic chips TSMC has all their business, moving some product lines to Samsung would certainly reduce their risk on being wholly reliant on one company for all their CPU chiplets and GPU supply.

Yeah i agree with that too.

Moving away from TSMC is bigger risk though.



Neither can Intel, unless you are including 22 and 14nm along with 10nm.

Not moving away just diversifying.
 
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