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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory
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No 290x pricing as far as i know, just hoping it's not ridiculous 
edit: ooh thanks matt, i missed that one. normally ends up roughly the same in pounds by the time the import tax etc has been added. So if it matches a titan at stock and can be overclocked its looking good value for money compared to its nvidia rivals. Would like it to fall unde the £500 bracket though.
edit: ooh thanks matt, i missed that one. normally ends up roughly the same in pounds by the time the import tax etc has been added. So if it matches a titan at stock and can be overclocked its looking good value for money compared to its nvidia rivals. Would like it to fall unde the £500 bracket though.
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Caporegime
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300W though - has a single GPU ever drawn so much power? Seems ridiculous.
No 290x pricing as far as i know, just hoping it's not ridiculous
Just wondering what you class as ridiculous? I used to spend no more than £300 on a GPU but now I consider more than 500 in that bracket. Guess it is subjective. NOt willy waving either, genuine query.
That TDP is not confirmed. Infact other places are saying 250W-260W. Grain of salt required on a 300W TDP for now.
Soldato
I read that the card has two bios you can select, the stock bios with TDP of 220Watt, then the overclocking (Titan destroying) bios that prob unlocks to limit of 300watt.
It may be fud, hopefully get some legit reviews soon, very little actual confirmed info at this point, AMD have done an excellent job at controlling information.
Soldato
Sub £250 has always been my choice for a GPU.
Awaiting the 280x reviews with interest.
Caporegime
The statement that AMD guy made was "This is the fastest single GPU AMD has ever made" If you look at the 7990, AMD bill it as the fastest GPU on the planet.
Take from that what you will.
Take from that what you will.
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I'm interested to see the performance difference between the R9 290 and R9 290x.
And the price difference...Can't see myself buying the very top end GPU but 290 is potentially very interesting.
And the price difference...Can't see myself buying the very top end GPU but 290 is potentially very interesting.
Caporegime
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I don't know why people are so set on 300W being some kind of important thing. It used to be an issue, 300W card with 250W idle would cost a bomb on a PC you do everything on and leave on all day. A 300W card that uses 10W at idle , 150-200W in most games when vsynced(save power on games that already exceed your refresh rate) and only use 300W when it's required, awesome.
"Single" being the key word. I think AMD classes the 7990 as a Dual GPU.
Man of Honour
What I don't get is why AMD did not show any performance figures for the R9 290X.
If they did show it beating a Titan/GTX 780 there is really nothing in the short term that NVidia can do and AMD would gain a big publicity bonus.
On the other hand if the R9 290X can not beat a Titan/GTX 780..............
Ok so what do we know and what is still to come.
After what some will say was a very lacklustre presentation last night (personally I found it quite interesting but with a few fundamental flaws but I’ll get into that latter)
What they have told us.
for the R9 290X
Support for directx 11.2
over 5 TFlops of compute
over 300 GB/s of memory bandwidth
more than 4 billion triangles per second
more than 6 billion transistors
4GB or ram
for the 7970 Ghz ed
support for directx 11.1
4.3 TFLOPS of compute
288 GB/s memory bandwidth
????
4313 million transistors
3GB of ram
For titan
support for directx 11.1
4. 5 TFLOPS of compute
288.4 GB/s memory bandwidth
????
7.1 billion Transistors
6GB of ram
other than that we know nothing. (including crossfire connectors, TDP, price)
Back to the presentation, it was all very good telling us that the new cards were coming, but we knew that anyway. The press at the event have been told more than the people watching the live stream, but they are still under NDA and we have no idea when that will be lifted.
Obviously the delay in starting was a bit of a joke but these things happen, us being told they only expected 5000 viewers, was comical to be honest and whoever decided on that figure needs to be shot at dawn (a good few hours ago lol) now of course they knew what was in the presentation and if we had of known then it would have been far less than 5ooo viewers.
Having a large portion of the presentation dedicated to the audio features was pretty pointless as far as the stream watchers were concerned due to the appalling sound on the live stream it self, this is probably partly due to the fact that they had to change from YouTube to their own host.
The sound features themselves are all very well and good, except that everybody has one if not two sound cards in their machine already (one on the motherboard, one dedicated) some even have them in their headphones (most that are USB) do we really need another one in the graphics card.
The whole raptr thing seems to be a good idea even if it is only a clone of the Nvidia experience with an added app overlay.
And Mantle, well there’s two ways to look at it, it could be brilliant as a nice thin, small footprint API that will improve things for us gamers. Or it could just end up another hardly used game API that is just a tick box on the packaging, hopefully it will be the former, at least it is backed by AMD rather than just a game developer. But of course saying that, some other things backed by AMD have just failed to come to fruition at all.
Then of course there was the game demo's some of which were good, some of which were bad.
Lichdom sounds great but the quality of the video footage was terrible and seeing as the quality of star citizen was ok it’s not down to the stream, which in my view is completely unacceptable. As was telling everybody that here is some never before seen footage of battlefield 4 and then showing the same video as last time it was shown, again completely unacceptable.
End of rant.
After what some will say was a very lacklustre presentation last night (personally I found it quite interesting but with a few fundamental flaws but I’ll get into that latter)
What they have told us.
for the R9 290X
Support for directx 11.2
over 5 TFlops of compute
over 300 GB/s of memory bandwidth
more than 4 billion triangles per second
more than 6 billion transistors
4GB or ram
for the 7970 Ghz ed
support for directx 11.1
4.3 TFLOPS of compute
288 GB/s memory bandwidth
????
4313 million transistors
3GB of ram
For titan
support for directx 11.1
4. 5 TFLOPS of compute
288.4 GB/s memory bandwidth
????
7.1 billion Transistors
6GB of ram
other than that we know nothing. (including crossfire connectors, TDP, price)
Back to the presentation, it was all very good telling us that the new cards were coming, but we knew that anyway. The press at the event have been told more than the people watching the live stream, but they are still under NDA and we have no idea when that will be lifted.
Obviously the delay in starting was a bit of a joke but these things happen, us being told they only expected 5000 viewers, was comical to be honest and whoever decided on that figure needs to be shot at dawn (a good few hours ago lol) now of course they knew what was in the presentation and if we had of known then it would have been far less than 5ooo viewers.
Having a large portion of the presentation dedicated to the audio features was pretty pointless as far as the stream watchers were concerned due to the appalling sound on the live stream it self, this is probably partly due to the fact that they had to change from YouTube to their own host.
The sound features themselves are all very well and good, except that everybody has one if not two sound cards in their machine already (one on the motherboard, one dedicated) some even have them in their headphones (most that are USB) do we really need another one in the graphics card.
The whole raptr thing seems to be a good idea even if it is only a clone of the Nvidia experience with an added app overlay.
And Mantle, well there’s two ways to look at it, it could be brilliant as a nice thin, small footprint API that will improve things for us gamers. Or it could just end up another hardly used game API that is just a tick box on the packaging, hopefully it will be the former, at least it is backed by AMD rather than just a game developer. But of course saying that, some other things backed by AMD have just failed to come to fruition at all.
Then of course there was the game demo's some of which were good, some of which were bad.
Lichdom sounds great but the quality of the video footage was terrible and seeing as the quality of star citizen was ok it’s not down to the stream, which in my view is completely unacceptable. As was telling everybody that here is some never before seen footage of battlefield 4 and then showing the same video as last time it was shown, again completely unacceptable.
End of rant.
AMD FX 9550 we 'think' at 5gz. Slide said 3dmark performance, but the numbers don't add up. The optimistic amongst us think its actually the extreme preset.The pessimists think an overclocked 7950 is faster than the 290x.
Pick your side or sit on the fence.
Hmm unless its the gpu score its a very strange bench to showcase with given the amount of variables.
Ah well expect I'll be happy enough with a 780 that will do well over 1300mhz and cost me a ball hair over £400
20nm is where its at
Aye.
I remember AMD saying when the 7990 was released two months after titan that it was the "fastest gpu".
No chance of it beating a 7990.
Caporegime
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You sure they don't bill it as the fastest card ever made?
from AMD's website
I don't think this will have any trouble beating the 7970 massively and meh, ignore 3dmark. Isn't the 7970 already miles and miles behind a Titan anyway when in most games Titan isn't even remotely that far ahead, IE isn't 3dmark currently Nvidia architecture biased? I care about game performance not benching. I'm sure some games that favour Nvidia will have Titan ahead by varying amounts but hugely smaller amounts than currently, and there will be plenty of AMD favouring games which it will beat Titan again by varying amounts. I think the claim of how much faster it is in BF4 might be flimsy on release but come Mantle peoples jaws are going to drop.
Caporegime
But you would then bill it as "The fastest single GPU on the planet"?
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At DM, I am 99% sure that was what he said and I was paying attention completely at that time. I thought that would be the early giveaway if it was a Titan killer or not.
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OcUK Staff
Come on guys!!! a Titan with proper none Nvidia GUFF PWM can take down an 800 watt PSU on its own!!! Titan is very very very hot and power hungry when it gets overclocked "properly". Hotter than 480 even!!! same with 780!!!