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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

Besty said:
No but Amd are watching this very thread to gauge enthusiasm for a £500 290x.

So Amd, £399=sale £499=no sale, £450=maybe I go and buy a ps4 instead.
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Agreed.

£400, i will probably buy and sell my SLI 670's. Anymore and im not sure its worth it.

This is all assuming it does actually beat/match a Titan and isnt too power hungry and hot....
 
Marine-RX179 said:
But with that said, even with the 8800GTX at around £475 on launch, it now looks like the bargain of the century and make cards like Titan looks really pants for the money they are charging. The 8800GTX was like 100% faster than the top card of the gen before it for and only priced at sub £500; the GTX780 and Titan ask for far more money, yet the performance gain over previous gen flagship cards is just a mere 30-40% increase.
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The 8800GTX was a monster of a card which could cut the mustard many years after it's releaae. It was a far better card for 2006 than Titan or the 290X are for 2013.

But top end card prices are just silly compared to the real-world performance gains they offer over cards half of their price.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Something gone wrong somewhere with your memory. The 8800 was the same gen as the HD2000 series, the HD4000 series was 2 gens later.

But with that said, even with the 8800GTX at around £475 on launch, it now looks like the bargain of the century and make cards like Titan looks really pants for the money they are charging. The 8800GTX was like 100% faster than the top card of the gen before it for and only priced at sub £500; the GTX780 and Titan ask for far more money, yet the performance gain over previous gen flagship cards is just a mere 30-40% increase.
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Ok, but both the HD2000 and the HD3000 series were pants. Prior to the HD4870, the GTX 8800 was the top performing single GPU. It came out in summer 2006, the HD4870 was summer 2008. The HD4870 retailed for £200 on launch, which actually undercut the GTX 8800 by some margin at the time, whilst outperforming it by about 30% - 40%.

And important to note, is that the Titan only outperforms the HD7970/GTX680 by about 20% - 30%, with the Radeon R9 290X set to do just about the same. As things stand, someone living in UK can buy approx 4 HD7970's for the price of one Titan or three R9 290Xs.

Madness. Especially since current 1080p gaming really and truly doesn't demand the extra juice, unless we were getting picky to the point of psychological illness.

But a fool and his gold are soon parted, no doubt there will be queues of people lined up for these and stocks will soon be depleted.
 
MatTheCat said:
Ok, but both the HD2000 and the HD3000 series were pants. Prior to the HD4870, the GTX 8800 was the top performing single GPU. It came out in summer 2006, the HD4870 was summer 2008. The HD4870 retailed for £200 on launch, which actually undercut the GTX 8800 by some margin at the time, whilst outperforming it by about 30% - 40%.

And important to note, is that the Titan only outperforms the HD7970/GTX680 by about 20% - 30%, with the Radeon R9 290X set to do just about the same. As things stand, someone living in UK can buy approx 4 HD7970's for the price of one Titan or three R9 290Xs.

Madness. Especially since current 1080p gaming really and truly doesn't demand the extra juice, unless we were getting picky to the point of psychological illness.

But a fool and his gold are soon parted, no doubt there will be queues of people lined up for these and stocks will soon be depleted.
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What is the point you trying to make? Did the 9 series and 200 series get erased from the history books?:rolleyes:
 
elmuzzy66. said:
What is the point you trying to make? Did the 9 series and 200 series get erased from the history books?:rolleyes:
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I don't think the 9 series really counts, just a big rebadge affair with the 9800GTX not being faster than the 8800Ultra.

I can't really remember much of the 200 series, I never paid much attention to it. I do remember getting my 4970X2 for cheaper than the GTX285 though.
 
MatTheCat said:
Ok, but both the HD2000 and the HD3000 series were pants. Prior to the HD4870, the GTX 8800 was the top performing single GPU. It came out in summer 2006, the HD4870 was summer 2008. The HD4870 retailed for £200 on launch, which actually undercut the GTX 8800 by some margin at the time, whilst outperforming it by about 30% - 40%.

And important to note, is that the Titan only outperforms the HD7970/GTX680 by about 20% - 30%, with the Radeon R9 290X set to do just about the same. As things stand, someone living in UK can buy approx 4 HD7970's for the price of one Titan or three R9 290Xs.

Madness. Especially since current 1080p gaming really and truly doesn't demand the extra juice, unless we were getting picky to the point of psychological illness.

But a fool and his gold are soon parted, no doubt there will be queues of people lined up for these and stocks will soon be depleted.
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I prefer to look at it as somebody buying something they want. Nobody forces anybody to buy anything so as much as I agree with the price/performance angle between generations dropping off it doesn't really make a difference while the market is willing to pay price X for GPU Y.
 
MatTheCat said:
That the cost of new high end graphics cards is going through the roof, whilst the performance gains are falling through the floor.
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Well the prices go up and down every gen, and as maybe in this thread or another, compared to a CPU you're getting twice the silicon size, memory, pcb + componentry... generally better value.

A new gen on a new process is for me an "upgrade" offering hopefully 60-80% performance boost for around the same cost, and somewhere between process changes you'll have a refresh which is really just better value if you're upgrading from a previous generation.

IE lets say everyone has a 5870, 6970 is a meh upgrade, no one should do it, the 7970 comes out and it's an awesome upgrade, loads of people jump on it but not everyone. Later on the now R290x comes out for around the same price as a 7970, its a poor upgrade for 7970 users as the 6970 was for 5870 users. However those who are still on 5870, the R290x is a much better value upgrade than the 7970, same price 30-40% more performance.

If you compare 5870 > 7970 to 7970>r290x of course it will look bad value.

But the 9800pro was a bad value upgrade to a 9700pro, while a x800xt was an awesome upgrade to a 9700 pro.
 
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