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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

I'm hoping this is a joke.

Would be madness to buy a card based on something none of us know about or how well it will work and if it takes off.

Wait till December I'd say if your decision is based on Mantle.

Of course it is. :p

Edit - derp
 
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I am interested in this argument.

I have an HD 7970 and was thinking splashing out all of another £220 on getting a match for it and crossfiring them, should I feel the need for more gfx horsepower. From the benchmarks I looked at, this would give me way moer horsepower than 780 GTX, TITAN, or R9 290X at a fraction of the price......


....but what is this about stuttering?

Are the HD7000 series still suffering from stuttering in multi-card mode. If so, are you saying this isn't the case with Nvidia multi-card setups?

I have a GTX780M in my laptop. First time since Geforce2 days with an Nvidia card and got admit I find the drivers much nicer to live with than the AMD equivalents and possibly games run smoother in general than on my HD 7970 as well, although the HD7970 is still a much faster card capable of markedly higher frames.

However, with certain games, I get stutter with my GTX780M.....this can also depend on what monitor/TV screen I have my laptop hooked up to, but surely it is the drivers job to make sure this don't happen. So if I can get stutter with a single Nvidia GPU, I would imagine there is still plenty of potential for multi-GPU stutter with Nvidia.

It's an issue that has been mitigated but not fully resolved. It is also the reason I cancelled my 7990 pre order and got a GTX 780 instead.
I'm not prepared to gamble with that kind of money and hope that I do not notice something that is prevalent.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-radeon-hd-7990-review
That review came out after I had already made my choice but pretty much echoes my sentiments.
 
Did anyone from OcUK who owns a Titan pay £1000 for it?

I paid £820 for mine on launch day, which is £180 shorter than you keep saying.

I am not getting into an argument on pricing but surely if the 290X matches (let's say) a 780 and on price, that isn't good. £50 cheaper would be a start I guess but anyone who was prepared to spend £500 on a GPU would have already bought a 780?


What do you think about NV's pricing of the 770 and 780 vs the r280x or 7950 or 7970?

Why would they? I don't think there's a cut-off point for spending money on a product at a certain price point.

If NV brought out a new £500 card tomorrow, they would sell plenty, and so would AMD.

Your argument makes no sense.
 
It's an issue that has been mitigated but not fully resolved. It is also the reason I cancelled my 7990 pre order and got a GTX 780 instead.
I'm not prepared to gamble with that kind of money and hope that I do not notice something that is prevalent.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-radeon-hd-7990-review
That review came out after I had already made my choice but pretty much echoes my sentiments.

It's not really a gamble though is it. Just DSR it if your eyeballs fall out.
 
It does and it doesn't.

Don't forget the 780 has been around for a while now. Essentially they're releasing a counterpart that is aimed at competing with this card. If it's priced the same, it doesn't offer anything other than loyal customers an upgrade path. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not exactly what we've been lead to believe with flying everyone out to Hawaii, and generally making a really big deal about this whole thing.
 
It's not really a gamble though is it. Just DSR it if your eyeballs fall out.

Hassle tbh, don't regret my choice one bit. Just a shame there isn't a single GPU solution to suit my needs fully. I just cant bring myself to spend 1k on multi NVIDIA GPU's.
 
Ooh I see what you mean about your bottleneck, you really need to release the beast so to speak. IN other news, we have a very similar setup inc monitor :)

How did your 780 cope with BF4 at 1440p?

That eurogamer review of the 7990 doesn't put the 780 in a very good light considering it's the same price :(
 
So many variations of their new cards, to me it just looks like watering down their differences just to say they have beaten Nvidia on such and such model, marketing and sales know what their doing.

290X is to take on the Titan, beating its performance and price on single digit % but more expensive than the 780.

290 to take on the 780, beating performance and price...

And so on down their product range, those dreaming on getting AMD flagship, be prepared to pay closer to Titan's price than 780's.
 
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What do you think about NV's pricing of the 770 and 780 vs the r280x or 7950 or 7970?

Both are rebrands and currently sit too high. The 280X is the better VFM card and the real bargain is a Matrix 7970 Platinum. If I wanted a new card and had a £250 budget, I would go there.

Why would they? I don't think there's a cut-off point for spending money on a product at a certain price point.

The cut off point is the persons own thoughts on what he/she is prepared to pay

If NV brought out a new £500 card tomorrow, they would sell plenty, and so would AMD.

Nvidia bought out a £500 card 3 months ago and my point was anyone who had a budget of £500 on a GPU and wanted a single top end card, they would have bought a 780. If AMD's card matches a 780 or even only just beats it, why would someone sell the 780 they already own?

Your argument makes no sense.

Thanks for that :)
 
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What do you think about NV's pricing of the 770 and 780 vs the r280x or 7950 or 7970?

Why would they? I don't think there's a cut-off point for spending money on a product at a certain price point.

If NV brought out a new £500 card tomorrow, they would sell plenty, and so would AMD.

Your argument makes no sense.

It does make sense. You have to take into account the amount of time the Titan and 780 have been on the market as well as NVIDIA's superior market perception.

Sure we can argue that NVIDIA cards and driver are no better than AMDs and I would agree but the market sees things differently.
 
It does make sense. You have to take into account the amount of time the Titan and 780 have been on the market as well as NVIDIA's superior market perception.

Sure we can argue that NVIDIA cards and driver are no better than AMDs and I would agree but the market sees things differently.


It doesn't make sense at all. AMD will sell plenty of these cards whatever the price is, and so would NV. What recent history has shown us is that enthusiasts will pay top dollar for anything, look what people paid for the Titan.

All the people who want/wanted a £500 card did not all buy a 780.
 
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What do you think about NV's pricing of the 770 and 780 vs the r280x or 7950 or 7970?

Both are rebrands and currently sit too high. The 280X is the better VFM card and the real bargain is a Matrix 7970 Platinum. If I wanted a new card and had a £250 budget, I would go there.

Why would they? I don't think there's a cut-off point for spending money on a product at a certain price point.

The cut off point is the persons own thoughts on what he/she is prepared to pay

If NV brought out a new £500 card tomorrow, they would sell plenty, and so would AMD.

Nvidia bought out a £500 card 3 months ago and my point was anyone who had a budget of £500 on a GPU and wanted a single top end card, they would have bought a 780. If AMD's card matches a 780 or even only just beats it, why would someone sell the 780 they already own?

Your argument makes no sense.



1. You set the cut-off point, not me, I know the cut off point is where people want that point to be. What you're arguing is that no-one would buy a £500 AMD card. That's not true at all. The idea that everyone already bought thee 780 so AMD won't sell the 290x is laughable.

2. How do you know they would? How do you know people were unimpressed by the 780? or that people thought it wasn't worth £500+ (it clearly isn't)? or that people knew AMD's new cards were round the corner and would wait and see?

3. I don't think many people are going to sell a 780 to buy a r290x, but you can bet there are enthusiasts out there with money to burn who want to play with new tech. That's what enthusiasts do!


PS - OCUK have sold out their pre-orders for the r290x, and I would bet most of those pre-purchases go through if the cards are £500 or not, and those that don't will be snapped up in no time.

If you don't think people will buy a £500 r290x, at what price do they need to be at to sell?
 
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