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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Geforce Titan did,but I saw significantly less for the GTX780 on multiple forums I frequented.

If people want to blame someone for high R9 290X pricing,its the people who spent £450+ on any AMD or Nvidia GPU in the last 4 years,who have made the market a reality.

AMD and Nvidia are not charities and with the process nodes becoming more and more expensive,you can see where it is going.
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The 780 is still moaned at now quite frequently because of its price.

Come on you can't blame the people buying them really can you. nvidia and AMD set a price they know the cards will sell at and that's exactly what happens they always sell. You're living in fantasy land if you think people are just going to boycott high pricing in the hopes AMD and nvidia will drop prices to £250 to suit you.
 
Noxia said:
Welcome to 2013. I'm not going to start linking but it's hardly a secret. Although I appreciate some people are more sensitive to it than others.
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I am interested in this argument.

I have an HD 7970 and was thinking splashing out all of another £220 on getting a match for it and crossfiring them, should I feel the need for more gfx horsepower. From the benchmarks I looked at, this would give me way moer horsepower than 780 GTX, TITAN, or R9 290X at a fraction of the price......


....but what is this about stuttering?

Are the HD7000 series still suffering from stuttering in multi-card mode. If so, are you saying this isn't the case with Nvidia multi-card setups?

I have a GTX780M in my laptop. First time since Geforce2 days with an Nvidia card and got admit I find the drivers much nicer to live with than the AMD equivalents and possibly games run smoother in general than on my HD 7970 as well, although the HD7970 is still a much faster card capable of markedly higher frames.

However, with certain games, I get stutter with my GTX780M.....this can also depend on what monitor/TV screen I have my laptop hooked up to, but surely it is the drivers job to make sure this don't happen. So if I can get stutter with a single Nvidia GPU, I would imagine there is still plenty of potential for multi-GPU stutter with Nvidia.
 
stulid said:
All R9 290/290X will be reference from all AIB's.

If and when custom versions come out? who knows.
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I realise that, but I think people were expecting more of a bundle or something a little different about the design for the limited edition. Just looks like a different box and a scratch card.
 
I have a feeling it will be priced similar to 780 and you'll just have to choose one based on which games you play.

That, or it will beat Titan in a more than a handful and will seem like a no brainer, but that scenario is extremely unlikely. However, it will probably beat Titan under BF4 though judging by the marketing. :p

As for overclocking, aftermarket coolers won't take long to appear, 2 weeks max, surely? If the PCB is similar to 280x or 7970, I don't see it taking that long.
 
Suarez7 said:
The 780 is still moaned at now quite frequently because of its price.

Come on you can't blame the people buying them really can you. nvidia and AMD set a price they know the cards will sell at and that's exactly what happens they always sell. You're living in fantasy land if you think people are just going to boycott high pricing in the hopes AMD and nvidia will drop prices to £250 to suit you.
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Then people need to stop moaning about the price then!!

I am not the one complaining the R9 290X is expensive,but others are,when saying the prices of GK110 based cards are OK.

I am only highlighting that they were OK with past high prices,and the only way to solve it is to not pay such high prices for either companies cards.

If they cannot do that,then simply there is no point complaining IMHO.

As I said earlier:

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Do it for both,or don't bother doing it at all.
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I would not spend more than £200 to £250 on a graphics card myself.

Hence,the high pricing of the top end cards for me is only annoying in the fact that it reduces the performance progression of cards for 99% of the market.

If the performance of the cards is not enough of an improvement,I have no issues waiting a bit,or turning down a setting or two.

I can always do a playthrough of a game later on with all the shiny bits enabled.
 
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RavenXXX2 said:
I don't know, the 7990 dropped its knickers fairly quick when no one looked at it at £700+.
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Well AMD shot themselves in the foot with that one, pricing was pretty spot on for the raw performance but, their crossfire issues at the time of release and the sites that showed the card stuttered badly in many games meant only die hard fans would have bought it.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
I don't know, the 7990 dropped its knickers fairly quick when no one looked at it at £700+.
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That was a disaster launch as well. They already had a 7990 out but wasn't endorsed by AMD, so anyone who wanted a dual AMD card on a single PCB had already bought the Sapphire (iirc). They launched with all the AMD micro stutter problems in CF. I would be surprised if even the total die hard AMD fans bought one at launch price.

Again the defence for that launch was "It beats a 690 in most games" but a 690 had been out for a year (guessing).
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Then people need to stop moaning about the price then!!

I am not the one complaining the R9 290X is expensive,but others are,when saying the prices of GK110 based cards are OK.
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I've never agreed with complaining about prices either, people buy what they can afford and generally don't care about price/performance or we'd all have 7950's or 670's.

My matter with the release is what's the benefit of paying the same price for a 290x (if rumours are true) as a 780. Unless you're AMD only or some audio nut it's just a red alternative to a card that's been out 3 months.
 
Gregster said:
Again the defence for that launch was "It beats a 690 in most games" but a 690 had been out for a year (guessing).
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Performance wise it certainly looked the better card when viewing benchmarks, but I know which one I'd of rather been using at the time. Thankfully it's more or less fixed now but again with AMD, too little too late.
 
Suarez7 said:
My matter with the release is what's the benefit of paying the same price for a 290x (if rumours are true) as a 780. Unless you're AMD only or some audio nut it's just a red alternative to a card that's been out 3 months.
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and perhaps a much hotter running one at that!
 
Suarez7 said:
My matter with the release is what's the benefit of paying the same price for a 290x (if rumours are true) as a 780. Unless you're AMD only or some audio nut it's just a red alternative to a card that's been out 3 months.
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Maaaantttlllleeeee. :cool:
 
Suarez7 said:
Not sure if serious.

The price got hounded on here when it was released.
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Agreed, the 780 price has been moaned about the whole time.. I got mine for £450 and honestly think it was a good price for it's performance. 1300mhz on the clock performance is epic.

Anyway roll on 20nm now, want to see what Maxwell and Pirate Islands are capable of, 28nm is at it's limit. 93c on AMD improved cooler, yup we need 20nm lol.
 
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