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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

Jono8 said:
Everyone in this thread presumably :confused:

Nvidia have been able to price things the way they have, because AMD have offered no competition to the GK110 chip for over 8 months. Simple as that really.

I really hope AMD seriously undercut the Titan and 780 with these cards so we all get great prices.

if they release the 290 at £450-£500 and the 290x at £550-£600 as rumoured though, I see it as a big disappointment.
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Funny this, when the Titan was launched part of the reasoning for its £1000 price tag was that "its a very very very special GPU and no one can do what Nvidia did" <- Wrong.

You can't blame AMD for Nvidia's pricing, Nvidia are the ones responsible for Nvidia's pricing, no one else.
 
Noxia said:
Sorry what is? Not following you. Ah ok, I've not really been following PC tech, I've just come to conclude that I need £500 min for a great card although 250-300 used to be my limit, then again I was gaming at 1080p back then.
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£250 would be my limit too. Anything more expensive can go fly a kite IMHO!!

There was a lack of moaning over the GTX780 pricing though.

Now look at the HD7970:

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/images/perfrel_2560.gif

It was priced around the same as the GTX580 3GB and surround gaming capable 1.5GB models while offering around 20% to 25% higher performance than a GTX580. That means pricing was around 20% to 30% higher overall than the GTX580 1.5GB,going cheapest to cheapest.

Now,the HD7970 had massive room for performance improvements,and overclocked very well.

Que,the usual suspects whinging AMD was expensive,causing price inflation,etc and they ignore both the high launch prices of the GTX280,GTX480 and GTX580.

Now fast forward to the GTX780:

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_780/images/perfrel_2560.gif

Around 20% to 30% on average faster than the previous worlds fastest single GPU card,the HD7970GE.

1GHZ clock HD7970 cards could be had for around £300 to £360 for the cheapest models. The GTX780 launched at £450 to £500(IIRC) for the cheapest models.

This made it comparatively more expensive than the HD7970(against the GTX580) for a similar average increase in performance.

Of course see the lack of complaining about price.
 
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humbug said:
Funny this, when the Titan was launched part of the reasoning for its £1000 price tag was that "its a very very very special GPU and no one can do what Nvidia did" <- Wrong.
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It wasn't wrong. Obviously the Titan wasn't going to be the fastest card for the rest of time :confused:

My whole point was that AMD have had nothing to compete with the GK110 chip until now....well I say now, until whenever the hell this card gets released.

If AMD had a rival to the GK110 Titan would absolutely not have been the price it was.
 
As with most of the stats on there and the nature of 290X there's a fair chance some of those readouts are wrong in GPUZ. It is like trying to read Mandarin at this stage though.
 
humbug said:
Funny this, when the Titan was launched part of the reasoning for its £1000 price tag was that "its a very very very special GPU and no one can do what Nvidia did" <- Wrong.

You can't blame AMD for Nvidia's pricing, Nvidia are the ones responsible for Nvidia's pricing, no one else.
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Did anyone from OcUK who owns a Titan pay £1000 for it?

I paid £820 for mine on launch day, which is £180 shorter than you keep saying.

I am not getting into an argument on pricing but surely if the 290X matches (let's say) a 780 and on price, that isn't good. £50 cheaper would be a start I guess but anyone who was prepared to spend £500 on a GPU would have already bought a 780?
 
Jono8 said:
It wasn't wrong. Obviously the Titan wasn't going to be the fastest card for the rest of time :confused:

My whole point was that AMD have had nothing to compete with the GK110 chip until now....well I say now, until whenever the hell this card gets released.

If AMD had a rival to the GK110 Titan would absolutely not have been the price it was.
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are you going to buy an R9 290X or GTX Titan?
 
humbug said:
are you going to buy an R9 290X or GTX Titan?
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I have 290x on pre-order ;)

However I will only go ahead with it if it is snapping on the heels of Titan and is around £400 or just over.

Otherwise I will stick with my sli 670's until 20nm.
 
Gregster said:
Did anyone from OcUK who owns a Titan pay £1000 for it?

I paid £820 for mine on launch day, which is £180 shorter than you keep saying.

I am not getting into an argument on pricing but surely if the 290X matches (let's say) a 780 and on price, that isn't good. £50 cheaper would be a start I guess but anyone who was prepared to spend £500 on a GPU would have already bought a 780?
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Same. In fact my third one I got for £680 off an Ebayer. Brand new sealed.
 
Suarez7 said:
Not sure if serious.

The price got hounded on here when it was released.
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Geforce Titan did,but I saw significantly less for the GTX780 on multiple forums I frequented.

If people want to blame someone for high R9 290X pricing,its the people who spent £450+ on any AMD or Nvidia GPU in the last 4 years,who have made the market a reality.

AMD and Nvidia are not charities and with the process nodes becoming more and more expensive,you can see where it is going.
 
whyscotty said:
It shows max fan speed of 43% in the screenshot
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Which is presumably pretty quiet which is good.

However with overclocking/overvolting surely you are going to have to ramp that fan speed up to jet taking off levels to keep it under 95 degrees. :(
 
Let's be honest: AMD have to price cheaper to sell the same amount as NVIDIA in today's market. Rightly or wrongly... this is the current state of the market. AMD aren't stupid; they know this and I don't see the 290X price settling close to 780 price

Sure: early adopter tax aside it may be similar but the problem with being this late to the market is that it's harder to get people to upgrade.
 
VincentHanna said:
I think i'd rather have an Xbox One and PS4 than pay £800+ for a GPU.

I'm considering £450-500 for the R9 290x and I know that in itself is silly.
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I probably wait a bit anyway. The R9 290 is probably going to be better value for money,and after Christmas the price gouging would have gone done too.

Nvidia is also launching a GT770TI based on the GK110 supposedly. There are rumours of a fully enabled GK110,also called a GK180,being released.

So,there could be some movement on price. I doubt it will be massive though.

PC hardware sadly is bad for early adopter price gouging.
 
Jono8 said:
I have 290x on pre-order ;)

However I will only go ahead with it if it is snapping on the heels of Titan and is around £400 or just over.

Otherwise I will stick with my sli 670's until 20nm.
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If those Chinese Rumoured Charts are right then its sitting between the GTX 780 just under or trading blows with a Titan, it will be priced at most the same as the 780 or AMD wont sell a single one.

As for 20nm, not for at least a year yet. Nvidia rolling it out in Q1 2014 is just another vidz rumour that will go on and on for the next year or more.
 
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