AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

ubersonic · 24 Sep 2013 at 20:55

Jerry64 said:
no we don't want red v green

Don't worry, their both green now lol

Kaapstad · 24 Sep 2013 at 21:18

Here is a big question,

Below is the scores from the 1600p rez section of the Heaven 4 thread, the cards are all overclocked.

The Titans are scoring more than 50% more than my HD 7970 Matrix Platinums, will the R9 290X be able to close this sort of performance gap at Hi Rez ?

1 GPU

1. Score 966, GPU nvTitan, @1189/1752, CPU 3930k @4.5, whyscotty Link
2. Score 950, GPU nvTitan, @994/1777, CPU 3930k @5.0, Kaapstad Link
3. Score 622, GPU 7970, @1280/1800, CPU 3970X @4.9, Kaapstad Link
4. Score 580, GPU 7970, @1250/1700, CPU i7 920 @4.2, blackninja Link
5. Score 567, GPU 680, @1160/1800, CPU 3960X @4.9, Kaapstad Link

2 GPUs

1. Score 1870, GPU nvTitan, @994/1777, CPU 3930k @5.0, Kaapstad Link
2. Score 1205, GPU 7970, @1280/1800, CPU 3970X @4.9, Kaapstad Link
3. Score 1101, GPU 690, @1160/1800, CPU 3960X @4.9, Kaapstad Link
4. Score 925, GPU 7990, @1100/1575, CPU i7 920 @4.2, blackninja Link

Boomstick777 · 24 Sep 2013 at 21:24

Jerry64 · 24 Sep 2013 at 21:45

Maybe this will help

Kaapstad · 24 Sep 2013 at 21:46

Boomstick777 said:

Besty · 24 Sep 2013 at 21:58

Kaapstad said:
Here is a big question,

Below is the scores from the 1600p rez section of the Heaven 4 thread, the cards are all overclocked.

The Titans are scoring more than 50% more than my HD 7970 Matrix Platinums, will the R9 290X be able to close this sort of performance gap at Hi Rez ?

We can speculate that Nvidia pulled out the 4K tests because AMD is about to drop cards which have so much memory bandwidth that 4k becomes an option, never mind 1600p.

If you can't focus on the straight line performance, focus on the quality, features and discredit the competitor that way.

Its possible that the 290X's lead is extended over the Titan the higher the resolution goes.

flopper · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:05

Besty said:
Its possible that the 290X's lead is extended over the Titan the higher the resolution goes.

The truth nothing else than the truth so help me AMD

4K gamin aside, what about eyefinity as todays GPU is good to 2560 but lacks still a bit for eyefunity.

and 22 hours to go

Gregster · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:11

Besty said:
We can speculate that Nvidia pulled out the 4K tests because AMD is about to drop cards which have so much memory bandwidth that 4k becomes an option, never mind 1600p.

If you can't focus on the straight line performance, focus on the quality, features and discredit the competitor that way.

Its possible that the 290X's lead is extended over the Titan the higher the resolution goes.

Valid points.

Gripen90 · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:16

flopper said:
The truth nothing else than the truth so help me AMD

4K gamin aside, what about eyefinity as todays GPU is good to 2560 but lacks still a bit for eyefunity.

and 22 hours to go

For Eyefinity and nVidia Surround most higher end multi GPU setup have the power for 5760x1080/1200 resolutions. But if you refer to a single GPU solution then yes that we lack... perhaps until tomorrow

Jono8 · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:23

flopper said:
The truth nothing else than the truth so help me AMD

4K gamin aside, what about eyefinity as todays GPU is good to 2560 but lacks still a bit for eyefunity.

and 22 hours to go

But in Tomb Raider, Metro LL and Crysis 3 it cant even muster 30fps at 2560x1600 with some anti aliasing according to those leaked benchmarks. Those are all games that are on current gen consoles as well...

They can have all the bandwith in the world, but I dont see how even 3 or 4 R9 290x's will be able to output decent framerates at 4k res with some AA on next gen titles that will be coming over the next few years.

cainer · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:36

Jono8 said:
They can have all the bandwith in the world, but I dont see how even 3 or 4 R9 290x's will be able to output decent framerates at 4k res with some AA on next gen titles that will be coming over the next few years.

would 4K need AA? i thought 4k would have had higher dpi, reducing the need for AA

IT Troll · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:40

So what do we get tomorrow? Paper launch or real cards to buy?

Really thinking of giving team red another go. My last two cards have been nVidia but the two before that were AMD.

flopper · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:40

cainer said:
would 4K need AA? i thought 4k would have had higher dpi, reducing the need for AA

reduce yes, might still need it, game engine has dependent also.

Jono8 · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:50

cainer said:
would 4K need AA? i thought 4k would have had higher dpi, reducing the need for AA

I reckon it would still need some AA, maybe at least 2x

Anyway, i don't think these will be the cards for decent 4k gaming on graphically good games. Anandtech did a benchmark for Metro 2033 and it needed 4 titans just to get 60fps average with no AA on 4k.

Metro 2033 is old now so i wouldnt like to see what 4 titans will get on a good looking next gen game ( e.g. Ryse Son of Rome) in terms of framerates. I reckon you will need 4 just to get above 30fps.

Kaapstad · 24 Sep 2013 at 22:53

Jono8 said:
I reckon it would still need some AA, maybe at least 2x

Anyway, i don't think these will be the cards for decent 4k gaming on graphically good games. Anandtech did a benchmark for Metro 2033 and it needed 4 titans just to get 60fps average with no AA on 4k.

Metro 2033 is old now so i wouldnt like to see what 4 titans will get on a good looking next gen game ( e.g. Ryse Son of Rome) in terms of framerates. I reckon you will need 4 just to get above 30fps.

You get better performance using 2 Titans rather than 4 on Metro 2033.

Orangey · 24 Sep 2013 at 23:18

I remember when people said you wouldn't need AA at over 1024x768.

Kaapstad · 24 Sep 2013 at 23:37

Jono8 said:
But in Tomb Raider, Metro LL and Crysis 3 it cant even muster 30fps at 2560x1600 with some anti aliasing according to those leaked benchmarks. Those are all games that are on current gen consoles as well...

They can have all the bandwith in the world, but I dont see how even 3 or 4 R9 290x's will be able to output decent framerates at 4k res with some AA on next gen titles that will be coming over the next few years.

Tomb Raider maxed @2560x1600

With Crysis 3 I get about 85fps maxed @1600p so would get about half that if I was running 4K with my cards at stock.

3t3P · 24 Sep 2013 at 23:37

So its about right then, by the time 4k monitors are mainstream and cheap enough we should have cards that are 3-5 titans worth performance?

Kaapstad · 24 Sep 2013 at 23:50

3t3P said:
So its about right then, by the time 4k monitors are mainstream and cheap enough we should have cards that are 3-5 titans worth performance?

Within twelve months Titans will look slow and very mid range.

sieze2 · 25 Sep 2013 at 00:08

Kaapstad said:
Within twelve months Titans will look slow and very mid range.

Ain't that the truth.