AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

malachi · 23 Oct 2013 at 15:25

old gamer said:
Ive bought on release day before only to see prices drop quite a bit after a few months, not going to have my pants pulled down again thank you very much

Depends, I remember buying my 4870 on release. Went up a few days after then slowly came down 6 months to the price I originally paid for it.

straxusii · 23 Oct 2013 at 15:32

I early adopted a 5870 on launch day for £300, went up to £330 in the months to come

old gamer · 23 Oct 2013 at 15:35

malachi said:
Depends, I remember buying my 4870 on release. Went up a few days after then slowly came down 6 months to the price I originally paid for it.

In fairness i think the 5870 went up in price after release day, it seems my memory only wants to remember the 6970 and 7970 prices

Zeed · 23 Oct 2013 at 15:42

My bet is 529 pounds for BF4 edition

malachi · 23 Oct 2013 at 15:49

old gamer said:
In fairness i think the 5870 went up in price after release day, it seems my memory only wants to remember the 6970 and 7970 prices

The 6950's being flashed to 6970's at the time made the prices silly after release.

old gamer · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:05

malachi said:
The 6950's being flashed to 6970's at the time made the prices silly after release.

true but there were a few people that got a bit upset that they had paid the extra for a 6970 when a 50 could be flashed

kissenger · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:12

Suarez7 said:
Is buying a ferrari crazy when you can get a banged up ford escort that will take you anywhere in the same time if you follow the speed limits?

I see your point but it's not a fair comparison. Most people are buying this card for BF4. You can run that on a PS4 at 60FPS, 64-man and (possibly) also 1080p, with negligible differences in detail. I'm just saying the gap in performance isn't big enough to justify the cost and I think they should price lower and try and make up the margins with more sales.

Boomstick777 · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:17

Boomstick777 · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:19

@ Gibbo or someone who knows.. Does the 290X require a shim for water cooling, i.e does the stock cooler have a raised part to contact with the die like the 7970 had?

Tempted to get a 290X just to have a play with it's overclocking lol.

Gregster · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:32

So no voltage play with these

This is bad bad bad for the overclockers of this world and I was hoping MAD wouldn't follow in Nvidia's footsteps

Boomstick777 · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:34

Gregster said:
So no voltage play with these This is bad bad bad for the overclockers of this world and I was hoping MAD wouldn't follow in Nvidia's footsteps

You can get volt control with MSI software change, my 780 @ 1.3v.. AMD might get volt support later on..

humbug · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:35

Gregster said:
So no voltage play with these This is bad bad bad for the overclockers of this world and I was hoping MAD wouldn't follow in Nvidia's footsteps

Wait, what? where did that come from? who said?

Kaapstad · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:36

Gregster said:
So no voltage play with these This is bad bad bad for the overclockers of this world and I was hoping MAD wouldn't follow in Nvidia's footsteps

Is that official that there will be no voltage play.

Suarez7 · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:36

humbug said:
Wait, what? where did that come from? who said?

Gibbo mentioned it I think, I'm sure voltage control will be available with a softmod just like the 780/TITAN. Certainly the custom 290X that come out a few weeks later will anyway

Gregster · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:37

humbug said:
Wait, what? where did that come from? who said?

Gibbo said:
I can only coax the cards into giving a little more voltage by setting power limit to +50 and setting low GPU temperature card.

Keep the card cool, use +50 power and the card adds a little more voltage automatically. Once you've coaxed it 6000MHz is stable, but not until the card has warmed up and started increasing it voltages within the set tolerances.

Elpida 5700Mhz is the limit, maybe 5800 if your lucky, Hynix is better for sure by 200-400MHz.

These cards are crying out for custom/voltage control, I hope software comes out, otherwise we shall have to wait for customPCB designs from AIB's before we get voltage control. I hope software comes out as I feel the card has way more OC potential with a few extra volts, even on stock cooler, put it under water and these things will absolutely fly.

cainer · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:37

one of the BF4 290x boxes had 'voltage unlocked' on the front, cant remember the brand

TheRealDeal · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:40

Gregster said:

He's talking about software so not sure if he just means afterburner and the like's don't support it yet.

Gregster · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:40

Kaapstad said:
Is that official that there will be no voltage play.

I seriously had a feeling this would happen but was hoping it was just trapped wind. This seriously ****** me off and even if there is a volt mod to get volts unlocked out in a few months, that just makes the whole fun bit less fun

Gregster · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:41

cainer said:
one of the BF4 290x boxes had 'voltage unlocked' on the front, cant remember the brand

TheRealDeal said:
He's talking about software so not sure if he just means afterburner and the like's don't support it yet.

Ahhhh I hope you are right. I took it from him saying AIB's would need to do voltage control as AMD had done voltage control and locked that part out (Like Nvidia have done).

This is something that could do with confirmation.

LtMatt · 23 Oct 2013 at 16:42

Relax ladies. In case you missed my earlier post.

LtMatt said:
I expect full voltage control will be available when Unwinder updates afterburner for the 290X. Should be very soon id imagine as MSI will want it working on release day.

The problem is the 290X has a different voltage regulator from the 7970 so until the software is updated it shall remain locked, or semi locked, i think.