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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

16x VRAM IC's on the PCB definately indicates a 512bit bus. Memory bandwidth isn't everything (after all the GTX680 competes well vs the 7970 with only a 256bit bus), but this could be a pretty fast card.
 
What is the shelf life of these going to be though? Rumours are that 20nm and maxwell could be released Q1/Q2 2014 and that the new process will show significant gains.

I would hate to spend £500 on one of these only for it to be hideously obsolete by the middle of next year.

It looks like it will match or beat 780's/Titans but i feel it is a little bit late to the party.
 
arc@css said:
If the price you pay is within your budget, and it does what is required of it, who cares if it isn't the latest and greatest? :)
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No doubt, but there are just plenty of rumours of maxwell being released Q1 2014 which would personally make me think twice before dropping ~£500 on a graphics card in October that could be obsolete in less than 6 months time. Everyone has different finances/priorities though so this is just my feelings on it.

This is all just conjecture ofcourse, we all wont know anything till Wednesday :p. AMD might release a titan killer for £350 and then we will all be laughing.
 
is Maxwell going to be that much quicker ? or just that much more efficient ?

I think I saw a slide on the web showing substantial performance increase - but was performance per watt - not overall performance I think ?
 
The card's likely to be £400 ish I think, to really upset nvidia.

If the card can outperform a Titan (even by a small amount), it's going to be brilliant. It's going to outperform a 780 at least, it wouldn't be worth AMD's time otherwise. Plus add on the binned overclocked models with custom coolers...
 
Jono8 said:
No doubt, but there are just plenty of rumours of maxwell being released Q1 2014 which would personally make me think twice before dropping ~£500 on a graphics card in October that could be obsolete in less than 6 months time. Everyone has different finances/priorities though so this is just my feelings on it.
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The things is...we've seen many times before companies using "new product coming soon" strategy/sham to try to stall the sales of competitors' product far too many time...
 
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I have not seen anything in this thread that shows the new card is going to beat a GTX 780 or Titan.

And as to what 8 Pack said earlier

Remember his 4 GTX 680s can beat 4 Titans by a few percent lol.

Here is a prediction though, the new AMD card when overclocked will score around 1523 on the Heaven 4 bench.

Lets see how close I am.:D
 
Buckster said:
is Maxwell going to be that much quicker ? or just that much more efficient ?

I think I saw a slide on the web showing substantial performance increase - but was performance per watt - not overall performance I think ?
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20nm shrink, double the transistors, so both camps will benefit from it.
only real way to increase performance (double) is a die shrink.
if a 290x slightly oc beats a Titan I call that well done.
 
From what we suspect now, is it looking like the 7970's and 7950's are the bargain basement pricing today of £170 to £230 are worth going for it or is it likely that something better will be released for the same price point? I appreciate no-one really knows for sure.
 
Hades said:
From what we suspect now, is it looking like the 7970's and 7950's are the bargain basement pricing today of £170 to £230 are worth going for it or is it likely that something better will be released for the same price point? I appreciate no-one really knows for sure.
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Or click on the MM and get them even cheaper.... the new ATI cards if they are better and 4gb/512bit then you can bet the members market will be full of older ATI and Nvidia cards :)
 
Lets hope they don't **** it up and get greedy like they did with the 7900 launch. Still bitter over that, which is why I might go green on my next upgrade for the first time in 8 years.
 
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