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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

Boomstick777 said:
How are people calling this a failure? Must be watching different sources I guess.

It mostly beats the RTX 4080 and costs less, has more vram and AMD are known for improving performance with drivers.
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I really want AMD to do well really don't want Nvidia left controlling prices etc

But it is disappointing it's pretty much equal to 4080 and worse RT and seems to be using more power

Just being slightly cheaper isn't good enough it needed to be right in the middle of 4080 and 4090

We should be getting these kind of cards in the £750 range
 
So looking at reviews a little underwhelmed, I expected the XTX to have a comfortable win over the 4080 I'm Rasta, not necessarily a big win but at least a win, instead it's neck and neck.

As someone with a 4k monitor the XTX seems to take a slight lead over the 4080 (at least based on hardware unboxed)

It also seems that the XTX takes a bigger lead when CPU bound where the 4000 series fall a little short.

For my personal use the 7900xtx seems the better product as I have both a high refresh rate monitor as well as a previous gen 5600x.

On the otherhand power consumption I'm on record saying I don't care too much about that, but to see the 7900xtx use 4-5 times the power when idle watching a video to me seems insane that's just frankly terrible. For AMD to promote power efficiency to then have on par 4080 performance drawing considerably more power that's just a flat out loss.

RT performance I was never to worried about so I don't care that much, as someone with a 4k monitor it looks like both the 4080 and 7900xtx fail to deliver good 4k max setting RT performance without the help of DLSS or FSR which will only get worse as the years pass.

All in all the best I can say is I'm now confused on what to do. I will definitely wait for AIB reviews but considering 7900 ref is on par with 4080 ref I expect 7900 AIB to be on par with 4080aib but significantly more power consumption at most likely roughy the same price.

I think I might just hold onto my 1080ti for a few months and see what happens.
 
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fs123 said:
AMD is actually getting better RT performance in quite a few games than the 3090 so not sure why you think its bad..
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Its only bad from the perspective of someone looking to upgrade from a 3070-3080-3090 class card.

You spend £1K+ to find it performs no better in RT than the card you purchased in 2020-2021 in the really heavy RT games such as Control & CP 2077 whilst having a reconstruction technique (FSR 2) that looks & performs worse than DLSS in those titles.

Bad optics.
 
I like Gamers Nexus summary. The 7900XTX as a GPU shouldn't be skipped, just the reference card. Partner cards is where its at. And they summarised nicely that the card with the issue here is the 4080. AMD has done well to close the gap and made some good RT gains. I agree with all that. Can't wait to see some AIB reviews. AMD are on a good path here, with no doubt some good improvements down the line.
 
Firegod said:
Is there a filter available to remove the usual anti AMD fan brigade comments?

For me I've always said and I'll say it again, I want to know how it performs against previous gen AMD cards. So we're saying now that rasta on point with a 4080 and with 3090Ti equivalent RT performance? And no risk of fire?

Just the price really as many have mentioned.

Hardly a failure.
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Rasta is 50% on point to a 4080 and looses badly the other 50% of time. It is equvialent to a 3080 to 3090ti in RT depending on game and is way off a 4080 by about 40-50% That to me has failed to even compete with a 4080 sucessfully at what appears to only be a £100 gap now.
 
Watched the hub video. Such a disappointment. Makes me laugh seeing people trying to use a 4080 to defend it. Pathetic.

The 4080 is a joke of a card (obviously due to price). If one had to upgrade (I have no intention) the 7900 XTX manages to make it look tempting. That is just sad...

My opinion is the 4080 should be a £700 card and the 7900 XTX a £650. Based on this they are both simply a fail.
 
JamieM said:
Hmm,

I was looking to upgrade from a 1080, I was waiting for the AMD 7900 XTX...

I'm not sure how I feel, can someone tell me how I should feel about the performance/price?
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Listen, if you ever want to turn RT on, don't buy AMD. It just loses too much performance. Truthfully the picture is even bleaker when evaluating DLSS, because it's a bigger value-add than FSR, and that's without even counting frame generation which is still not in enough games (but will surely increase). Imo looking at the current prices for GPUs it's all more or less linearly scaling at each price point so long as you're above a 3050, i.e. performance increases almost proportionally with the price, at least in the most relevant scenarios. So it's really just a matter of how much you want to spend (or what your game's fps target & quality is).
 
TBH looks more or less like I expected, Tom's Hardware posted an interesting detail in their review: it seems that there are benefits in using a CPU with lots of threads with it, in some cases there is a non-marginal performance jump using a 7950X.
 
Curlyriff said:
Rasta is 50% on point to a 4080 and looses badly the other 50% of time. It is equvialent to a 3080 to 3090ti in RT depending on game and is way off a 4080 by about 40-50% That to me has failed to even compete with a 4080 sucessfully at what appears to only be a £100 gap now.
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In rasta it doesn't loose as badly to the 4080 as it does to the 7900XTX, nor as often.

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I've skimmed a few reviews on YT and wrt power draw, as far as I can see, no-one has tried these undervolted to try and cut down on power draw.
 
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