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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

I simply meant that both brands have particular titles that run much better on their hardware for one reason or the other...that's all. Not disputing the fact of it.


I knew what you meant and you are completely correct- was aimed more at the folk (last gen 3000/6000) using FC6 as global techpress findings when others stated it as it was - an outlier.
 
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Gamers Nexus mentioned coil whine was bad.

Imagine if you buy one now, age it in a case - the fine wine effect will get it up to a 4090 in a year or two.
 
W1zzard at TPU is talking up the 4080 like the 7900XTX just isn't worth buying.

Even when Nvidia do the most egregious crap some people just can't help finding ways of excusing them. That's what i mean by Stockholm syndrome @harmattan
I am in no way defending w1z. But I check the forums and the summary and I don't see where he's rebuking the 7900 for the 4080. Can you point me to a source? Because I've read a few of your posts stating he is.


Compared to RTX 3090 Ti, the last-generation flagship, the RX 7900 XTX is 19% faster, wow! The performance increase over the Radeon RX 6900 XT and 6800 XT is 47% and 58%, respectively. The mighty GeForce RTX 4090 is 22% faster than the RX 7900 XTX, at more than twice the cost right now. Today AMD has also released the RX 7900 XT, that card is 16% slower than the XTX, at 4K, at lower resolutions the gap is considerably smaller.

It's also possible that the press driver isn't fully optimized for all our games yet. RDNA3 introduces new dual-issue compute units, which require special code optimization, so that they can achieve the +100% performance uplift. In briefings AMD has made it clear they have been optimizing the driver for the new units, and I'm sure a lot of work has already been done in the compiler, but I'm just as certain that there's some cases where hand-optimization can yield further benefits. During testing I also encountered crashes in AC:Valhalla and Elden Ring, no doubt these will be fixed soon.


With those performance characteristics, RX 7900 XTX is a formidable choice for gaming at 4K, with maximum details and 1440p at high-refresh-rate. You can crank up everything and you'll still run at over 60 FPS. Things are different when you enable ray tracing though, here the RX 7900 XTX is considerably weaker than what NVIDIA offers. On average (new chart in the RT section), the RTX 4080 is around 15% faster than the RX 7900 XTX with ray tracing enabled, which isn't monumental, but definitely more than what I would have expected. I think everyone agrees that ray tracing is the future, and just disagrees on how quickly that future is happening. If you're part in the "I want this now" camp, then you should probably consider the RTX 4080, or RTX 4090. On the other hand, if you feel like ray tracing is just minor additional eye candy, that comes with a huge performance hit, then you can happily grab the RX 7900 XTX. That's not to say that AMD's new cards are useless with ray tracing, but if you consider the differences in price and RT performance, then the value-proposition of both cards is virtually identical, with NVIDIA RTX 4080 giving you the higher overall performance.

Power efficiency of the new Radeons is fantastic, clearly much better than the previous generation of RDNA2 and NVIDIA Ampere cards. NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 40 cards are a bit better still, by 10% (RTX 4090) and 16% (RTX 4080). During gaming the RX 7900 XTX uses around 350 W of power, sitting right at its power limit. While the choice for dual 8-pin makes a lot of sense, it slightly limits the card in what it can do in terms of power. I also noticed that as the card heats up, the frequencies will drop by a lot. In our thermal load test, the card starts out running at 2673 MHz, and stays in that state for around 20 seconds, good to get a boost on short running benchmarks, but then clocks go down to 2505 MHz and stay there until the card cools down again at the end of your gaming session. This 6.7% drop is clearly significant and costs AMD against the RTX 4080, which loses only 1% in the same test.

We measured a shocking power consumption result for multi-monitor and media playback. Here, just the graphics card alone consumes 103 W and 88 W, respectively. This is way too high, RTX 4080 uses only 20-23 W in the same scenario, even the last generation RDNA2 cards were less than half that with 40 W. This can only be some sort of driver bug, because it basically disqualifies the new Radeons for multi-monitor use. Remember, this is idle sitting at the desktop, not gaming. Wasting that much power is simply a big no-no, especially in these times. AMD has had a long history of drawing a lot of power in these power states, so I'm not 100% convinced this really is so easy to fix. I also find it hard to imagine that nobody at AMD tests multi-monitor power draw, so in some meeting somewhere, someone decided "we will release it like that."

The video playback power consumption is a bit of an oddity.
 
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If the Ref card is priced at £999.00 its a saving of £200 over a 4080fe but i have a feeling Ref cards will be more like £1099+ and AIB cards may reach £1250+ which makes the 7900xtx just not worth it. the ref design with coil whine and power spikes exceeding the 4080 does not go with AMD's efficiency claim's at all.

Are there any over clocked reviews of AIB cards yet?
This is my issue now I was looking forward to the 7900XTX but like someone said above it makes the 4080...Look like it's worth the extra.

If I can get a 4080 for 1200 a d the 7900xtx

Even me as someone who doesnt give a crap about RT id rather pay the extra 100
 
This was the only risk moving from the RTX 3070 to the great deal 6900 XT, I see it was a risk well worth taking.
It seems the 7900 XTX is a 4K card yet it swings downwards towards 3090 territory of which 650 pounds vs a grand and above, yeah I am set.
 
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This is my issue now I was looking forward to the 7900XTX but like someone said above it makes the 4080...Look like it's worth the extra.

If I can get a 4080 for 1200 a d the 7900xtx

Even me as someone who doesnt give a crap about RT id rather pay the extra 100
It's not just RT htough, you can use DLSS and FSR and benefit from either. For example on Death Stranding FSR looks better than DLSS, same performance too. You cannot use DLSS on AMD cards on games where where DLSS looks and/or runs better than FSR (if that game supports both).

For me the overall package is in favour of a 4080, especially if the price is dropped further in the new year.

That and the new encoder/decoder for video means playback and encoding is once again better on Nvidia - We have seen nothing about AMD's versions of these yet so assume nothing has changed else we would have done by now.
 
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No fan stop on the AMD reference cards.

They have an air intake sensor, if the air going in to the card is warm the fans wont stop, this is something new and all cards should have it because it will stop your memory IC's getting unnecessarily hot.
 
Looks like there are two clear options for gamers with a bit of cash to spare

If you aren't interested in Ray Tracing - Get the 7900 XTX

If you like Ray Tracing, get the 4080/4090
 
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Seem to think there was new encode/decode silicone on this gen, Could be completely wrong though :cry:
I believe there are some hardware units for it yeah, read that too but there's just been no mention of it and what it can do officially or in reviews lol. So is this something AMD will enable down the line with a driver update? Nobody knows really.
 
the 4080fe has just gone out of stock, i think people waited and decided the 7900xtx was not in front of the 4080 so went with its only advantage RT performance.

AMD just made the 4080 a viable option with the 7900xtx performance.
 
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They have an air intake sensor, if the air going in to the card is warm the fans wont stop, this is something new and all cards should have it because it will stop your memory IC's getting unnecessarily hot.

Right now my card is at idle, the fans have stopped, with the GPU core at 35c, my memory IC's are at 50c, the fans don't come of until the cores gets to 60c, i have seen my memory IC's at 90c before the fans kick in because the cores isn't hot enough to trigger them.
 
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