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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

Besty said:
The pre-launch rumours were that the 7900XTX reference would be limited to allow the AMD AIB's to add more value. This was in opposition to Nvidia's policy.

I think this rumour looks like one that was true.

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The TUF is a solid Mid-tier card, the Tier 1 cards have not shown up yet. The 7900XTX Strix OC LC could be a bit of a monster. In this type of configuration the 7900XTX is about twice the speed of a 6900XT. I would not be surprising to see (un-announced but-we-know-its-coming) 7950XTX Strix OC LC to be in the 70-80fps range, at stock.
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Here is a tier 1 7900xtx, it's expensive, it's big and runs at 59c, it has a 500w power draw and after OC it's 8% faster than stock reference card

www.guru3d.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ review

The NITRO+ RX 7900 XTX is a high-performance graphics card with a beautiful, minimalist design, excellent cooling, and a solid power delivery system.... Overclocking
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com
 
Grim5 said:
Here is a tier 1 7900xtx, it's expensive, it's big and runs at 59c, it has a 500w power draw and after OC it's 8% faster than stock reference card

www.guru3d.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ review

The NITRO+ RX 7900 XTX is a high-performance graphics card with a beautiful, minimalist design, excellent cooling, and a solid power delivery system.... Overclocking
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com
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The Toxic cards are Tier 1, Nitro+ is considered Tier 2 I believe.
 
Yeah, that's right, the Tiers are mainly down to the VRM configuration plus a few other things.

The Tier 1 cards could pull less watts than some of the Tier 2 cards like-for-like clocks due to the chip binning process (GPU and vRAM binning).

The OC BIOS on the 6950XT Toxic maxxed out at under 400W IIRC.
 
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Chuk_Chuk said:
i believe someone did some sort of “deep” gpu utilisation plot for the game and found that it barely used the RT cores on AMD GPUs .
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Doesn't surprise me.

Back in the day Toms Hardware did an article on what were then the new AMD Phenom II X6 CPU's, which ran PhysX faster than the GTX 480, weeks later Nvidia released a Driver that gimped PhysX on the CPU to just 1 core.
 
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ICDP said:
Your numbers are not accurate when we look at release MSRP. All the GPUs you listed were sub £1000 after adjusting for exchange rates and adding taxes.

1080Ti was $699 on release.
2080Ti was $999
3080Ti was $999 (3080 was the old 1080Ti price)

So NVidia already added $300 to MSRP for the exact same tier of Ti GPU. Now they are trying to normalise $1200 for the tier below this Ti level.

Please don’t fall into the trap of normalising these price increases, that is what NVidia and AMD are hoping for.
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2080Ti FE was $1199 MSRP
3080Ti FE was $1199 MSRP

Not $999 usa price MSRP
 
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Alt0153 said:
isnt that oc manually applied tho? stock aib card is green, oc yourself and you can get purple for who knows what power draw!
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The TUF is a base model AIB card from Asus, its performance, overclocked at least is more in line with where AMD said it would be.

I agree the reference cards should have been this out of the box, i think there is a problem with the drivers, but that's a 15% gain OC over the stock reference card so it seems AMD did leave a chunk of performance for AIB's to exploit, which is what was rumoured.
 
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As I expected, devs are now starting to target 4090 for RT. Those who kept saying 3090 Ti levels of RT is just fine for AMD should take note.

And no the game is not badly optimised. Vegetation and RT can crush performance so it's not Nvidia paying off CDPR to advertise their 4090. If you visit the park in the middle of the city in Cyberpunk, fps is cut in half and is exactly the same as Witcher 3
 
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Shaz12 said:
As I expected, devs are now starting to target 4090 for RT. Those who kept saying 3090 Ti levels of RT is just fine for AMD should take note.

And no the game is not badly optimised. Vegetation and RT can crush performance so it's not Nvidia paying off CDPR to advertise their 4090. If you visit the park in the middle of the city in Cyberpunk, fps is cut in half and is exactly the same as Witcher 3
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That’s fine if they target it, but they are still developing games primarily for consoles that don’t have that level of RT performance. And in the PC market, hardly anyone as a proportion of the user base is going to be playing on a 4090. Most people will happily dial down settings than pay £1600+ for a single component.
 
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rare said:
That’s fine if they target it, but they are still developing games primarily for consoles that don’t have that level of RT performance. And in the PC market, hardly anyone as a proportion of the user base is going to be playing on a 4090. Most people will happily dial down settings than pay £1600+ for a single component.
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Plus the consoles are all running on AMD (rdna 2 at the moment)
 
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I'll just leave this here again :p :D

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Sadly we won't see many titles like metro ee until they drop the old gen consoles though.
 
There is something wrong with the drivers for this card.

The Red Devil Limited Edition.

Its clocked higher than the reference design. And if you look at Metro Exodus the performance is 14% higher than the reference card, its also 30% faster than the 6950XT Red Devil.

Go to Guardians of the galaxy and the performance is exactly the same as the reference card, that performance is also bad, the 6950XT is 7% faster, its behaving like there is a hard limit on performance in this game where even a higher clock gains you nothing.

IMO the performances on these cards is way down from where its supposed to be, there is an issue with them.

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humbug said:
There is something wrong with the drivers for this card.

The Red Devil Limited Edition.

Its clocked higher than the reference design. And if you look at Metro Exodus the performance is 14% higher than the reference card, its also 30% faster than the 6950XT Red Devil.

Go to Guardians of the galaxy and the performance is exactly the same as the reference card, that performance is also bad, the 6950XT is 7% faster, its behaving like there is a hard limit on performance in this game where even a higher clock gains you nothing.

IMO the performances on these cards is way down from where its supposed to be, there is an issue with them.

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Yes there is a driver issue. This was mentioned by the AMD person quoted earlier. The drivers work well for some games and not others.
 
delta0 said:
Yes there is a driver issue. This was mentioned by the AMD person quoted earlier. The drivers work well for some games and not others.
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Ah. Well at least it's not as bad as Intel and while Intel have been doing quite well with their driver updates (starting from a very low base helps), I can't see them ever catching up to the other two probably until... well sometime after I expect Intel to pull the plug :(

So really, AMD should have experimented with chiplets on a low-volume non-halo part. I'm sure they'll figure it out soon enough but at which stage all the launch day hype will have died down and far too many people buy on launch day performance.

Which AMD must know by now. I mean not that I really mind since - hopefully - a poor launch does mean they will have to cut prices. A lot. Just bewildering that AMD never learns from previous launches.

EDIT: although I do suspect that some of negative parts of these launches have someone setting the narrative. Well, mostly AMD's GPU launches. Going back to the Hawaii launch where some PR focus posters were able to set all the talk to be about the stock cooler rather than AMD had a part which was only 79% of the size of GK110 and was able to beat it in many areas (including being a compute monster). That hasn't happened since - Hawaii was a very good design vs Kepler but sold really poorly.
 
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This seems more like a beta test for the architecture. I don't think its an easy fix as if it was then they would have delayed the launch. A couple of months down the line we may get what was advertised.
 
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