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AMD Ryzen 5 3500X / 3900 (non-x) ???

The Old School Gamer said:
Well chaps... where there is a will, there is a way.

Ryzen 9 3900 (non-X) - ORDERED

I did have to take a motherboard with it (so I made sure I picked a half decent model that people are after).
The plan is to flip the motherboard and the 3500X and re-coup some cash.
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Would it have not been better to get a 3900x at the start and save all the faff?
 
^^ AMD made a phone call I reckon.

I have actually spotted a new 3500X listing for £135 + £20 P&P.
But for that price l would definitely lean towards buying the 3600 from OCUK instead.

My 3900 has been dispatched, it should be in my hands by the weekend. :p
It will be interesting to see how well the 3900 boosts via PBO compared to my 3900X.
If the Tom's Hardware (US) review is anything to go by it should only be marginally slower in real performance terms.

I am quite surprised there generally isn't more reviews (and interest) for the 3900 non-X out there.
12 core / 24 thread CPU with a 65W TDP... that is just tech sexy to me lol. :D
 
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Still a few places showing the 3500X in stock. One is way overpriced and an other is in single digits. The Ryzen 1600 AF looks the better chip with the run on the 3500X.
 
Arrived today. :)

I'll install it into the X570 TUF later on tonight and do some benchmarks.

Any benchmark requests? let me know.

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Here ya go...

In my case the 3900 is performing better than my 3900X with PBO enabled.

But there are other factors to consider.
The 3900 is running on a newer X570 chipset vs the 3900X which is running on a older X370 chipset.

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Tom's Hardware (US) said:
The Ryzen 9 3900 impresses at stock settings with more performance than the Ryzen 7 3700X, but within a similar power envelope.
Uncorking the power limits via the PBO feature exposes performance that is comparable to the 3900X, and even outstrips its counterpart in the DX11 tests.

The gaming results speak for themselves. The stock Ryzen 9 3900 delivers nearly the same performance as the stock Ryzen 9 3900X, and surpasses it after tuning.
You'd be hard-pressed to notice a difference with the naked eye, and these slim deltas will shrink further with high-resolution gaming.
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Interesting... :cool:

ALL core boosting via PBO is maintaining a higher clock speed on the 3900 vs the 3900X.
The 3900X still clocks higher on a single core boost as the 3900 tops out around 4.35Ghz vs 4.65Ghz.

This does kind of explain why I'm getting better benchmark scores out of the 3900, it is technically clocking higher on a multi-core load. :)

*This is not a true apples-to-apples comparison though as the CPUs are running on different motherboards.
But the 3900X is water cooled so it's not being thermally constrained.

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The Old School Gamer said:
Interesting... :cool:

ALL core boosting via PBO is maintaining a higher clock speed on the 3900 vs the 3900X.
The 3900X still clocks higher on a single core boost as the 3900 tops out around 4.35Ghz vs 4.65Ghz.

This does kind of explain why I'm getting better benchmark scores out of the 3900, it is technically clocking higher on a multi-core load. :)

*This is not a true apples-to-apples comparison though as the CPUs are running on different motherboards.

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Is that under highend water?
 
wazza300 said:
Wont it boost higher due to no threads?
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Going by this graph by fpsreview, 4.3Ghz (give or take) is about where 3900X owners should be maxed out on PBO.
So my 3900X is 100mhz down (give or take), but my 3900 is right where it should be.

At launch my 3900X was unstable with the old BIOS version(s).
So it could be it's been slightly degraded or as jigger said I'm just a bit unlucky on the quality of the chip.

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