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thank you, i have gigabyte b550m aorus elite. i have already updated the bios in preparation so i guess i will have a snoop around the menu and see what options are there.
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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - Go Go Go xD
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Thinking on upgrading my PC soon, maybe October time or before christmas, currently have a ryzen 9 3900x, 2080 super graphics card, 16 gb ram, rog strix b 450 f gaming motherboard, would i see a good improvement in games if i went to the best AM 4 chip for gaming, along with a new graphics card ? 27 inch monitor with 2560 x 1440 res, i would plan on new 32gb memory, new cpu and graphics card, or would i be as well switching to AM 5 ?
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Definitely a GPU upgrade would give you a good increase.
The CPU its a hard one to say.
It will give you a nice speed boost, but is it worth spending more for AM5????
Obviously it's cheaper just to grab a 5800x3d and put that in the pc than a whole platform upgrade.
But its up to you at the end of the day.
What I did recently was add another 16Gb of ram to my pc and bought a 4080.
The 5800x3d I bought last year.
I don't think the 5800x3d is a slouch.
Only one game so far makes it look slow and that's Starfield.
But honestly Starfield is just a unicorn of a game. Theres clearly an issue with the engine which needs to be brute forced to get decent fps.
99% of other games the 5800x3d is more than fast enough for.
It's not that the 5800x3d is slow in Starfield it's just that there is a clear gap between it and something like the 7800x3d.
The CPU its a hard one to say.
It will give you a nice speed boost, but is it worth spending more for AM5????
Obviously it's cheaper just to grab a 5800x3d and put that in the pc than a whole platform upgrade.
But its up to you at the end of the day.
What I did recently was add another 16Gb of ram to my pc and bought a 4080.
The 5800x3d I bought last year.
I don't think the 5800x3d is a slouch.
Only one game so far makes it look slow and that's Starfield.
But honestly Starfield is just a unicorn of a game. Theres clearly an issue with the engine which needs to be brute forced to get decent fps.
99% of other games the 5800x3d is more than fast enough for.
It's not that the 5800x3d is slow in Starfield it's just that there is a clear gap between it and something like the 7800x3d.
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Strange as Kombo Strike usually just works for most
Worked fine for me in all benchmarking but the main (only) game I play on my PC is Warzone / Warzone 2 with friends. It crashed (hard shutdown) a couple of time in final stages of a quads game. Set to stock and no more shutdowns.Strange as Kombo Strike usually just works for most
Games can really hammer the cpu, gpu and ram more so than benching for 48 hours constant. When that extra power is needed and its not there, system just said 'nope'
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Totally agree, i fired up GTA V the other week and my X3D was at 80c for a minute or 2
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Hmm, tough one. If you're planning on getting new RAM too then a new platform may be the way to go as the only additional cost will be a motherboard.
If you're prepared to spend the extra then whether you go AMD or Intel you can get a CPU that will trade blows with a 5800X3D for a similar cost while adding the option of a further CPU upgrade down the line.
At the same time the first X3D is still impressive. If it weren't for the need for extra RAM then I'd say that was the better choice when coupled with a GPU upgrade.
80c is fine. Mines hitting around 86c gaming (Warzone 2) in this heat.Totally agree, i fired up GTA V the other week and my X3D was at 80c for a minute or 2
A friend who has a ‘standard’ modern PC his hits 97c! Not an x3d a slightly older model but not in a big case with good cooling.
He said its warm and noisy but never gets crashes.
I also have my 3 case fans locked at 42% and use a low noise adapter on my cpu cooling - I hate fan (or pump) noise
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Thanks for the reply, will wait to christmas and see how i feel, can't see prices dropping 2 much though
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Try Kombo Strike 2. That'll apply a -20 offset.
My chip can't do Kombo Strike 3/-30 offset as it's not Prime stable at that. -26 offset is fine so I just set Kombo Strike to 2.
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so the cpu has arrived and so far i am quite underwelmed. the few games/tests i have done are not showing a performance jump tbh. the strange thing is the frequency tends to be only 2.7-3.2 so i am hoping it is to do with that. i applied the -30 business and temps appear to be really low, 42-44c idle.
edit that...cinebench at 100% is only at 3.2 so i will look into that
edit that...cinebench at 100% is only at 3.2 so i will look into that
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Mine was prime (and multiple other tests) stable for at least 24 hours.
Load on all components, it’s not.
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Mines gaming stable too at Kombo Strike 2 or -26 offset.
Think I got unlucky with the silicon lottery as many others can do -30 offset easily.
Think I got unlucky with the silicon lottery as many others can do -30 offset easily.
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Mine cant. I'm on -20
Did you update your BIOS to one using at least AGESA 1.2.0.7 and did you install the latest chipset driver? You should be getting a maximum of 4.45GHz not 3.2GHz.
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Yes , I was on 1.2.0.8 but there was a newer bios which was 1.2.0.A.
Installed latest chipset driver too. The only thing that got me to 4.4 was loading optimized defaults on bios. That turned off all the pbo stuff. will have to grab a screenshot later since I'm giving up for today.
You’ll get a small bump but really if you’ve shelled out for a 4090 then it’s probably worth going straight to AM5 although personally I’d wait till zen 5 comes out in a few months.
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Thanks, that's pretty much what I wanted to hear. I'm in no hurry to upgrade so will wait it out
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so googling a fair bit, dangerous i know! but this is where i am at with my settings.
managed to get a 4.441mhz by applying optimised defaults. set a -25, temps are fine. i am using 3200 ram at the xmp settings although it sets the trc to 73 instead of the suggested 56, i cant seem to change that. and then read about setting ppt to 100, tdc to 70 and edc to 100. only other thing i have done is turn smt off.
anything i should/should not have done?
managed to get a 4.441mhz by applying optimised defaults. set a -25, temps are fine. i am using 3200 ram at the xmp settings although it sets the trc to 73 instead of the suggested 56, i cant seem to change that. and then read about setting ppt to 100, tdc to 70 and edc to 100. only other thing i have done is turn smt off.
anything i should/should not have done?