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Poll: AMD Screws Gamers: Sponsorships Likely Block DLSS

Are AMD out of order if they are found to be blocking DLSS on Starfield

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KompuKare said:
But that's not really my argument.

My argument is that rewarding the 'bad' ones is never good thing, especially in the longer term.

Pretty much all corporations are in a race to get as much money and power as possible but some are a lot more rustless at how they get there. Rewarding those ones leads to all the others following suite. A true race to bottom.

I know that "the lesser of two evils" is not a great endorsement but sometimes that is all we have. And rewarding "the greater of two evils" has never ended well!
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I don't disagree with you. I think Nvidia are acting pretty scummy at the moment. But so have AMD in the past. So have Intel. Asus. Gigabyte. MSI.

If you boycotted every company that made an anti-consumer decision you'd never be able to buy anything. Ever.

I say this as someone who has bought AMD the last two generations and, due to them using a stupid connector, their pricing, and their current business practices, I will not give Nvidia my money. But if you're in the market for a new card and you care about RT then Nvidia are your only real option. I don't think you should feel guilty for buying the best product for you because it wasn't from the underdog.
 
Nasher said:
Thing is in the past AMD has promoted open standards and APIs. They made Vulkan etc for everyone. People don't expect this sort of thing from them.

While Nvidia is more like Apple. They protected Physx and gsync like Gollum did his ring.
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BUDFORCE said:
Yup and Freesync.
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The biggest forgotten one is probably HBM as Hynix and a near bankrupt AMD pretty much all of the work. Nvidia have made far with that as their professional high end 800mm² cards tend to use it!
 
Tediore said:
I don't disagree with you. I think Nvidia are acting pretty scummy at the moment. But so have AMD in the past. So have Intel. Asus. Gigabyte. MSI.

If you boycotted every company that made an anti-consumer decision you'd never be able to buy anything. Ever.

I say this as someone who has bought AMD the last two generations and, due to them using a stupid connector, their pricing, and their current business practices, I will not give Nvidia my money. But if you're in the market for a new card and you care about RT then Nvidia are your only real option. I don't think you should feel guilty for buying the best product for you because it wasn't from the underdog.
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Have to buy underdog to feed the inferiority complex
 
Trick said:
Anybody getting upset by this clearly has no memory of gpus from the late 90s.
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3DFX cards were pretty much the only option. Nvidia later bought them out.

I wish we could go back to GPU which didn't need fans. PCs were actually silent.
 
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They did.

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JediFragger said:
They should bench Zen2 for a laugh...
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They did it got smoked badly in this game. No Zen cpu's do well apart from the 7 series. The ancient game engine does not like Ryzen at all. Would have been nice to see what happens when the resolution goes up and to see if it's still bottle necking at 4k. My 5800k performs worse than a 8700k hahaha
 
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Harlequin said:
It does, GN has mem speeds in their cpu tests. 4400 ddr5 is a 20% drop vs 6600
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I should have said - not as big an influence as first thought.

I mean the Hardware unboxed memory test shows a ~10% difference on raptor lake compared with ddr4 3800 vs ddr5 7200.
 
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Robert896r1 said:

Here’s the full sequence of the Crysis 2 tessellation story. On beyond3d with a large community of active game developers, it was well known early but the hysteria was more palatable for the masses.
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And here's a link to an image of a concrete barrier in Crysis 2 with tessellation turned on, see anything slightly peculiar?

hothardware.com

In-depth Analysis of DX11 Crysis Shows Highly Questionable Tessellation Usage

When Crysis 2's DX11 support finally arrived post-launch via several large patches, Crytek CEO Cervat Yerli described the option as a 'gift,' having apparently forgotten that the game was marketed with DX11 support from day one. The updated visuals and textures may have mollified some PC buyers...
hothardware.com hothardware.com

The fact is turning tessellation on cranked up the polygon count to stupid levels on simple objects that didn't need it, hence the performance bombing.

"The guys at Hardware.fr found that enabling tessellation dropped the frame rates on recent Radeons by 31-38%. The competing GeForces only suffered slowdowns of 17-21%."

So the talk that it hurt performance on both vendors cards but more on AMD holds true.
 
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Nexus18 said:
Star wars can be added to this list now too:

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What a difference it makes when companies get called out :)
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Is there anything like this for Nvidia sponsored titles? I'm curious how they compare.

Do devs have to pay Nvidia to include DLSS? I don't know if there are any factors beyond just exclusivity agreements/spite :D

Regardless of which side of the fence you fall on this topic, upscaling tech is the best thing to happen to AAA devs because it means they can shovel their **** out the door with even less quality control than usual, and that was already a staggeringly low bar.
 
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