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*** AMD ThreadRipper ***

It's hardly an issue, for the stuff it's designed to do really it had no true issue for performance as per any review and still outpaces anything intel at similar value.

If you need the RAM you likely need other features that Epyc covers well. Depends on workload but it's hardly an issue. What is good is that should Intel ever release anything to worry AMD they could offer more later as an option.
 
amigafan2003 said:
I really don't know why people don't get this?
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I think they are just trying to make a point. They were probably fine when Intel segmented the market up the wazoo, but moan when AMD does it.

As you say, if someone needs that much RAM then you can always get Epyc. They are cheap enough for what they deliver, just remember what was available just a couple of years ago - people haven't had it so good.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
AMD did not send gamer nexus a review sample, guessing all that 5600XT hate didn't go down well with lisa lol.
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The guy is a bit of an ass, his first gen Threadripper reviews are all about how you don't need that many cores and just use CUDA, this ignores the fact that CUDA performance is helped a lot by high core count CPU's. His attitude in those videos was petulant.
Made two videos critical of AMD for being 10% over TDP making out as if they were deliberately misleading while completely ignoring Intel's 80% over TDP, continuous snide remarks about "AMD's fake TDP" in subsequent videos.
Just general snobyness about AMD products, almost as if AMD have no right to be better than Intel, he's not an Intel or Nvidia fanboy but he is an elitist snob and it shows, he plays the game but doesn't like AMD winning.

If i was AMD i'd ignore him too.
 
humbug said:
The guy is a bit of an ass, his first gen Threadripper reviews are all about how you don't need that many cores and just use CUDA, this ignores the fact that CUDA performance is helped a lot by high core count CPU's. His attitude in those videos was petulant.
Made two videos critical of AMD for being 10% over TDP making out as if they were deliberately misleading while completely ignoring Intel's 80% over TDP, continuous snide remarks about "AMD's fake TDP" in subsequent videos.
Just general snobyness about AMD products, almost as if AMD have no right to be better than Intel, he's not an Intel or Nvidia fanboy but he is an elitist snob and it shows, he plays the game but doesn't like AMD winning.

If i was AMD i'd ignore him too.
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Mate you have some front to call someone a fanboy your Amd's biggest fanboy on these forums lol.
 
If anyone has or is getting the 64 core 3990X and you're using Windows, then you should really consider using 'Windows 10 Pro for Workstation', or Windows 10 Enterprise.
Win 10 Home doesn't support more than 64 threads, and Win 10 Pro supports up to 128 threads, but it's performance is either slightly or very gimped, depending on the task.

One example:

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AnandTech explains everything and has benchmarks here.

This also pretty much makes a lot of tech site/YouTuber 3990X benchmarks somewhat meaningless because the vast majority are using Windows 10 Pro.

I don't think Linux has this problem, and it's generally much faster than Windows with multithreading. It's actually ridiculous how much faster Blender and other highly multithreaded software is on Linux with these Threadrippers. It's equivalent to a huge CPU upgrade in many cases.
 
tommoT.Striker said:
Didn't even know that edition of windows existed until now. Also that Handbrake HEVC test shows how poor that version of handbrake + hevc is with scaling cores.
1.2.2 seems to behave better: https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/amd-threadripper-3970x-review/5
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That the scheduler is better on W10 Enterprise & Workstation is something ongoing since the first Zen appeared 3 years ago. Even the 1800X showed higher performance over Pro/Home (even on gaming) until MS partially upgraded the Home/Pro scheduler with October/Nov 2017 update. Yet still the Enterprise & Workstation scheduler is far superior to Home/Pro.

Linux on the other hand works fine, assuming someone used the latest version of the kernel. And the best things still to come for Zen 2 on Linux when the GCC10 is released next two months :D

Gentoo will come back to fashion compiling everything with -march Znver2 and -j24, allowing the 3900X stretch it's legs using all it's bells & whistles going unused atm. :D
 
MR.B said:
If anyone has or is getting the 64 core 3990X and you're using Windows, then you should really consider using 'Windows 10 Pro for Workstation', or Windows 10 Enterprise.
Win 10 Home doesn't support more than 64 threads, and Win 10 Pro supports up to 128 threads, but it's performance is either slightly or very gimped, depending on the task.

One example:

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AnandTech explains everything and has benchmarks here.

This also pretty much makes a lot of tech site/YouTuber 3990X benchmarks somewhat meaningless because the vast majority are using Windows 10 Pro.

I don't think Linux has this problem, and it's generally much faster than Windows with multithreading. It's actually ridiculous how much faster Blender and other highly multithreaded software is on Linux with these Threadrippers. It's equivalent to a huge CPU upgrade in many cases.
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Windows needs to sort itself out. It's always behind the industry standards- it doesn't even have proper HDR support and yet again we hear it doesn't fully support some desktop cpus- were not taking server products, standard desktop CPUs and it's not even support in windows
 
Grim5 said:
Windows needs to sort itself out. It's always behind the industry standards- it doesn't even have proper HDR support and yet again we hear it doesn't fully support some desktop cpus- were not taking server products, standard desktop CPUs and it's not even support in windows
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I totally agree, but MS fired most of the Windows team 4 - 5 years ago lol. Now they mainly rely on the Windows Insider Program to automate testing by using their actual customers as free beta testers. But that can't replace the people who were fired, so that's why you see all these botched Windows 10 updates being released. And if you look at somethinglike Windows Vista, you'll see that CPU performance for quite a lot of things has barely changed since then. Meanwhile Linux absolutely destroys Windows to the point where it's embarrassing now because that's always getting regular performance updates.

One of the MS guys who was fired now has a large YouTube channel and did a video on it. He has many other interesting and useful vids too...
 
Anyone tried compiling some source code with 3960X and above? Like Firefox or Android.

I never see these kind of benchmarks from tech sites, would be great to see the differences in time taken.
 
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Grim5 said:
Windows needs to sort itself out. It's always behind the industry standards- it doesn't even have proper HDR support and yet again we hear it doesn't fully support some desktop cpus- were not taking server products, standard desktop CPUs and it's not even support in windows
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Behind industry standard? Windows is the industry standard?!
 
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