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My goodness! a 16c/32t CPU with a base clock of 3.5Ghz on all cores at 155W. AMD really are going hardcore with their Zen architecture.
Even the "low-end" 10c/20t CPU has 44 PCIe lanes, and 3.6/3.9Ghz, all at 125W.

Zen+ is going to be wonderful if they can push out the IPC and Infinity Fabric improvements they need on 7nm.

I'm looking forward to one hell of an upgrade from my 5820K! So glad I didn't bother buying an Intel 8Core, or Ryzen 8 core yet. :D
 
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Zen+ is going to be wonderful if they can push out the IPC and Infinity Fabric improvements they need on 7nm.

I'm looking forward to one hell of an upgrade from my 5820K! So glad I didn't bother buying an Intel 8Core, or Ryzen 8 core yet. :D
If they can increase IPC a bit and get clock speeds near Intel i think it would be much better with Zen+.
But I'm in no rush to upgrade my 5820k either, I'm going to enjoy seeing what comes out over the rest of this year to next year from both Intel and AMD.
 
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If they can increase IPC a bit and get clock speeds near Intel i think it would be much better with Zen+.
But I'm in no rush to upgrade my 5820k either, I'm going to enjoy seeing what comes out over the rest of this year to next year from both Intel and AMD.
We already know Intel aren't planning on making serious architectural improvements until Icelake so any kind of IPC improvement for AMD will probably put them ahead. Intel will still be ahead on clock speeds though.
 
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Blimey... 9 SKUs.
Let's see, the 1800X is $500, and the lowest HEDT SKU listed is a 10c/20t part at 3.1-3.7 GHz, so that might be $550-600? I shudder to think how expensive the 16c/32t models will be! I'm sure it'll be cheaper than Intel's equivalents but anyone hoping for a huge number of threads are going to need deep wallets!
 
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Let's see, the 1800X is $500, and the lowest HEDT SKU listed is a 10c/20t part at 3.1-3.7 GHz, so that might be $550-600? I shudder to think how expensive the 16c/32t models will be! I'm sure it'll be cheaper than Intel's equivalents but anyone hoping for a huge number of threads are going to need deep wallets!
It's competing with Intel X299 so it will be about the same price but offer more cores for each price bracket. Hopefully it will also cost a little less.
 
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It's competing with Intel X299 so it will be about the same price but offer more cores for each price bracket. Hopefully it will also cost a little less.
They can't undercut their own AM4 platform though. Maybe they'll stick with the "double the cores for the same price" mantra and it'll go from $550 to $1000 with their 16c/32t CPU at the same price point as Intel's current 8c/16t? Depends if Intel do any price reductions with X299 but that doesn't really sound like them. :D
 
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That's completely insane but well played AMD, not least because they've pushed Intel to ramping up their line-up.

The trouble is unless you do heavy computational work you're going to get diminishing returns. A 12-16 core chip will be barely any faster than a 8 core chip in the majority of situations, 6 cores seems to be the sweet spot at the moment.
 
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They can't undercut their own AM4 platform though. Maybe they'll stick with the "double the cores for the same price" mantra and it'll go from $550 to $1000 with their 16c/32t CPU at the same price point as Intel's current 8c/16t? Depends if Intel do any price reductions with X299 but that doesn't really sound like them. :D
The R7 1700 is < £300 so they could do a low clocked 16 core for ~£600 if they wanted. Intel released the 5820K for ~£330 and the I7 was ~£300 at the time so prices can overlap.
 
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The R7 1700 is < £300 so they could do a low clocked 16 core for ~£600 if they wanted. Intel released the 5820K for ~£330 and the I7 was ~£300 at the time so prices can overlap.
Well that's not an overlap is it? Even if it was, you're talking about the highest-end mainstream Core i7 compared to the lowest-end X99 chip. A fair comparison would be to the R7 1800X, which, like I said, is $500. I really don't think a 16c/32t chip for £600 is a realistic expectation.

Also note that the lowest-clocked 8c/16t CPU is still more expensive than the highest-clocked 6c/12t chip, so with 9 (rumoured) SKUs there is no way they're going to fit in 7 SKUs between $500 and $650.
 
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Yes but you're talking about the highest-end Core i7 compared to the lowest-end X99 chip. A fair comparison would be to the R7 1800X, which, like I said, is $500. I really don't think a 16c/32t chip for £600 is a realistic expectation.

Also note that the lowest-clocked 8c/16t CPU is still more expensive than the highest-clocked 6c/12t chip, so with 9 (rumoured) SKUs there is no way they're going to fit in 7 SKUs between $500 and $650.
I don’t think a 16 core will be < 1800X price but I do think they will do a chip with > 8 cores for <= the price of the 1800X, it will just be running a lower clock speed.
 
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