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*** AMD ThreadRipper ***

Ayahuasca said:
Well that's what I'm asking isn't it, I'm sure if they've stressed the chips thoroughly at those speeds they would have mentioned it? I'm not bashing on threadripper here, the 0.1-0.2ghz difference means little to me if I get one, I just dared to question whether a consistent 4ghz overclock is achievable as 8pack stated otherwise.



But he also said 4ghz is very very rare?
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Other reviewers have got it. Were they binned? Who knows but I'll go with what majority says.
 
Ayahuasca said:
I just dared to question whether a consistent 4ghz overclock is achievable as 8pack stated otherwise.

But he also said 4ghz is very very rare?
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The reviewers overclock chips all the time as well. I'm not sure why you'd take the comment of one person's experience which goes against what everyone else is showing. As well it simply not making sense given the binning and XFR frequencies.
 
muon said:
The reviewers overclock chips all the time as well. I'm not sure why you'd take the comment of one person's experienxe which goes against what everyone else is showing. As well it simply not making sense given the binning and XFR frequencies.
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Maybe because his area of expertise is overclocking whereas with reviewers it isn't, as said quite happily to be proven wrong and we'll soon find out in the coming weeks what most chips can do stable :)
 
I guess the most impressive thing about TR is how bumping the clock speed, lowering the price and stacking the cores has many people seriously considering buying a £1k cpu with up to a £500 mobo and £???-£???? on RAM.

Sure it sounds like a bargain and a performance monster compared with the low clock speed and vastly more expensive intel options before but it's still an expensive computer to build.
 
RSR said:
What if you wanted the best all in one rig (gaming, streaming, VMs, media work etc...)?
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Then I'd buy a Threadripper, while it might not be "the fastest" for gaming, it's other attributes would mean I would be putting that "in my basket".

AMD have done really really well, I hope they sell a tonne, competition is good for the market.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Maybe because his area of expertise is overclocking whereas with reviewers it isn't, as said quite happily to be proven wrong and we'll soon find out in the coming weeks what most chips can do stable :)
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We'll see then how much of an expert he is then to put himself a good 200-300mhz out from everyone else, especially when it doesn't seem logical.
 
Hotwired said:
I guess the most impressive thing about TR is how bumping the clock speed, lowering the price and stacking the cores has many people seriously considering buying a £1k cpu with up to a £500 mobo and £???-£???? on RAM.

Sure it sounds like a bargain and a performance monster compared with the low clock speed and vastly more expensive intel options before but it's still an expensive computer to build.
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I doubt many people will get the Zenith motherboard. But many people have HEDT systems simply because they are enthusiaists. Why do people spend so much on custom loops, expensive cases? etc.
 
HEADRAT said:
Then I'd buy a Threadripper, while it might not be "the fastest" for gaming, it's other attributes would mean I would be putting that "in my basket".

AMD have done really really well, I hope they sell a tonne, competition is good for the market.
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For the gamer orientated people wanting this platform I would think the incoming 1900/1900X would be the obvious choice, you get all the lovely PCIE lanes and quad channel ram with 8 cores and a lot less cost.
 
ToTheMax said:
For the gamer orientated people wanting this platform I would think the incoming 1900/1900X would be the obvious choice, you get all the lovely PCIE lanes and quad channel ram with 8 cores and a lot less cost.
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I think the 1920 should appeal the most. As most people will overclock anyway. If a 1950 is realeased that would look good as well.
 
Hotwired said:
I guess the most impressive thing about TR is how bumping the clock speed, lowering the price and stacking the cores has many people seriously considering buying a £1k cpu with up to a £500 mobo and £???-£???? on RAM.

Sure it sounds like a bargain and a performance monster compared with the low clock speed and vastly more expensive intel options before but it's still an expensive computer to build.
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It makes financial sense if you use it for work though.
 
That degree of testing is before delid. After delid which obviously improves stability by dropping Temps a lot we also again do 30mins non avx prime testing.

The binning we use is working well. We have a very very low percentage. Less than 1% that come back because they are not fine at the binned speed.

3.7-3.8 is average of many cpu we tested using 240 aio 3200/3200c14 with 1.3-1.35V. Maybe some cherry-picked review samples I don't know but am sharing my experience this far. For bundle development we are doing a lot of testing, Realbench, aida, prime, looped cinebench,hci. In the video I think I am showing one hour runs where I took screen shots but ofcourse a lot of testing goes pre- screen shots.

I was not happy with thermals using 1.4+ volts for high frequency.

Think about it guys. 2 8 Core CPU in one package. Each alone struggling in many instances to hit 4ghz on all cores. Add in more heat, PCI EX lanes and quad channel IMC. Its simply not logical that these high frequency's being reported are "average"
 
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8 Pack said:
I was not happy with thermals using 1.4+ volts for high frequency.
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Are the coolers you are using TR coolers, that cover the entire chip? Or are they the normal versions with the bracket that dont fully cover the CPU?

Could there be any better cooling with the entire chip covered?

Still waiting for some proper coolers to appear.....
 
I am just using normal AIO by Asetek. For sure it does not cover the full IHS. When we get custom blocks in I will add them as an option and review my bundle options if indeed the OC improves. Like I say logic says like 4ghz is not average with what ever you cool with.

Here is some 128gb testing for the bundle based on ASUS Zenith. If you require 128gb call up.





 
muon said:
It's not hostility. @~>Dg<~ desperately wants to believe AMD and Ryzen is actually not very good.
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so out of all of this you saying im hostile ? :confused:

i have said before the benchmarks were out what the threadripper chips would do.you have had someone who is binning the chips telling what you oc they achieve safely for 24/7 use and people are saying its not correct.:D i said what oc would be achieved before the benchmarks.

ryzen are great chips.i never said they werent. i said they arent the fastest. as i said in my last post you win.keep up the delusion.

the cpu market is based on price of the sector of where chips sit.thats why generally intel cpus are more.cause in most real use they are quicker.you pay extra for that.whether it be 1 percent or 20 percent.
 
8 Pack said:
I am just using normal AIO by Asetek. For sure it does not cover the full IHS. When we get custom blocks in I will add them as an option and review my bundle options if indeed the OC improves. Like I say logic says like 4ghz is not average with what ever you cool with.

Here is some 128gb testing for the bundle based on ASUS Zenith. If you require 128gb call up.





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