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*** AMD ThreadRipper ***

Panos said:
How should we call the one who takes at face value reviews by a single GPU manufacturer, and extrapolates regardless if that GPU manufacturer drivers have performance issues with anything other than CPUs with ring topology?
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What?
 
HEADRAT said:
Thank god for that, I thought I'd lost it ;)
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I "think" he's trying to allude to my choice of pairing a 1080ti with Threadrippper vs choosing an AMD card. If that's the case, I look forward to him telling me what AMD card will perform better.
 
As i understand it the Nvidia - Ryzen issue is a driver problem? If so, given how Ryzen seems to be flying off the shelves i imagine Nvidia will be on the case of that right now.
 
SiDeards73 said:
I can sorta see your point with the 2 PC's for gaming and Workstation stuff... So lets say we go down the route of getting a 7700k for PC gaming and an Intel PC for a Workstation, buying from OCUK right now you'd prob aim for something similar to below for the builds right?

7700k top end gaming build
7700K £349.99
Asus Rog Maximus Hero Z270 £239.99
16GB 3200mhz 8Pack Teamgroup £188.99
Zotac 1080ti Amp Extreme Spectre £799.99
Superflower Leadex Platinum 750w £132.95
Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M2 £149.99
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Window £81.95
EVGA CLC 280 £129.95
Asus Predator 28" G-Sync 4K Screen £749.99

Total cost roughly £2825.

Workstation PC
Going cheap here on the components as it doesnt need glitz or glamour, just needs to work.
Intel 7820X - £518.99
Asus TUF X299 (cheapest X299 on OCUK) £229.99
Avexir 32GB 3200mhz Ram Quad Channel £233.99 (cheapest Quad Channel 3200mhz ram on OCUK)
Asus GT 210 GPU - £23.99 (7820X has no IGPU)
EVGA 500W 80+ PSU £44.99 (Should be half decent as EVGA Right?)
Bitfenix Nova Midi case £26.99 (Cheap and half decent)
AOC 24" Monitor £109.99 (Cheapest 24" on OCUK)
Raijintek Adios CPU Cooler £18.95 (Cheapest CPU Cooler compatible with 2066 i could see on OCUK)
Samsung 960 Evo M.2 £149.99

Total cost roughly £1358

So in total those 2 rigs would set you back about £4200 once you add in keyboards and mice etc and probably some more storage on the Workstation.


Need to lump on a keyboard and mouse for these also, but i wont bother putting a price on them as they are really user specific.

Now say i set the budget at £4000, what can i get with a Threadripper setup?

Threadripper Machine
Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M2 £149.99
Zotac 1080ti Amp Extreme Spectre £799.99
Threadripper 1950X 16/32 CPU £998.99
32GB Teamgroup 8 Pack 3600mhz Ram £419.99
Asrock X399 Taichi £359.99
Acer Predator 4k 32" Monitor £899.99
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Window £81.95
Superflower Leadex Platinum 850w £149.99
OCUK Asetek Extreme 240mm Cooler £75

So comes in at roughly £3950...

And i bet it can do the job of both the Intel machines above combined and still have room for more :)
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Fair play and thanks for working it out. I was thinking more along the lines of the TR as the Workstation. You're totally correct when you look at the figures but, with the two PC option you get two completely separate machines :). You can leave one hammering the CPU and you know it has zero impact on the gaming on the other PC. Many of us already have spares like keyboards, cases and monitors too or you can simply use one monitor and switch between the inputs from the different PC's.

Of course it's not really the economical solution.
 
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DarrenM343 said:
Fair play and thanks for working it out. I was thinking more along the lines of the TR as the Workstation. You're totally correct when you look at the figures but, with the two PC option you get two completely separate machines :). You can leave one hammering the CPU and you know it has zero impact on the gaming on the other PC. Many of us already have spares like keyboards, cases and monitors too or you can simply use one monitor and switch between the inputs from the different PC's.

Of course it's not really the economical solution.
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Even on my Ryzen 7 I notice I can now run a crap load of more tasks now, at the same time, whilst gaming, tons of tabs open in chrome etc. over my 6700k machine. My point being "You can leave one hammering the CPU and you know it has zero impact on the gaming on the other PC" on my 8c/16t cpu is now enough to make my 2nd machine redundant. With a TR machine I'd probably double the ram of my R7 and never look back at needing 2 machines for seperate tasks. The new Zen chips are that good when you actually use them day to day.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Fair play and thanks for working it out. I was thinking more along the lines of the TR as the Workstation. You're totally correct when you look at the figures but, with the two PC option you get two completely separate machines :). You can leave one hammering the CPU and you know it has zero impact on the gaming on the other PC. Many of us already have spares like keyboards, cases and monitors too or you can simply use one monitor and switch between the inputs from the different PC's.

Of course it's not really the economical solution.
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Yeah id have thought that too in all honesty, then i watched that AdoredTV Threadripper review and it totally opened my eyes at the end when hes playing WoW (CPU bound game) and recording his session, encoding another video and uploading another to Youtube or whatever, i was like ok thats impressive, WoW was running well over 100fps on his 580 with that CPU. That impressed me!

Also i absolutely hate to bring up the "Power consumption" issue but it seems to be the current FOTM card to pull out, especially if you mention anything in the Vega circles right now haha, the extra power use of 2 PC's over the 1 Threadripper is a consideration i guess.
 
Why does no one have any motherboards. How hard is it to ship stuff on time through the supply chain.

Ryzen I could understand as they were working on the bios, but X399 they've had plenty of time.
 
SiDeards73 said:
Yeah id have thought that too in all honesty, then i watched that AdoredTV Threadripper review and it totally opened my eyes at the end when hes playing WoW (CPU bound game) and recording his session, encoding another video and uploading another to Youtube or whatever, i was like ok thats impressive, WoW was running well over 100fps on his 580 with that CPU. That impressed me!

Also i absolutely hate to bring up the "Power consumption" issue but it seems to be the current FOTM card to pull out, especially if you mention anything in the Vega circles right now haha, the extra power use of 2 PC's over the 1 Threadripper is a consideration i guess.
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Because he was using a 580 and not a 1080. Otherwise he would be struggling to get more than 75fps like in other reviews Ryzen CPU is used with 1080 and WoW
 
Smudge said:
Even on my Ryzen 7 I notice I can now run a crap load of more tasks now, at the same time, whilst gaming, tons of tabs open in chrome etc. over my 6700k machine. My point being "You can leave one hammering the CPU and you know it has zero impact on the gaming on the other PC" on my 8c/16t cpu is now enough to make my 2nd machine redundant. With a TR machine I'd probably double the ram of my R7 and never look back at needing 2 machines for seperate tasks. The new Zen chips are that good when you actually use them day to day.
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Yup, I had the same experience with the Ryzen 1700 machines at uni -so much smoother experience just using them compared to my current 4770k set up. Quite often I had Photoshop open editing a texture, rendering in 3ds Max, composing in After Effects then using Adobe Media encoder to render a video file all at the same time with no hiccups - my 4770k just died with that work load and the 6850k machines we had weren't much better. There seems to be something inherent in the Ryzen architecture that promotes overall smoothness of experience. It made my mind up to upgrade to Ryzen - then Threadripper got announced ;)
 
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