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I think it will settle very quickly to the £200-210 price point very rapidly when more stock comes in for the 512mb version.

Guessing the price of the 1GB is interesting, but guess at initial pricing would around £260-£280.. more like £280. [I wouldn't be surprised if it released at £299 however]

Lastly, TOM + Kyle.. what the heck are you fighting about? Just drop it, as you hand bagging about speculated prices for goodness sake. Honestly, stop with the insults :)

Matthew
 
ATI gave in as they really had no choice, Fact as far as i can goolge/read

Price gauging, Well UK is expensive, Some say it's a smaller market meaning they have to charge more, Myself i know of a company that sell at a loss in their own country (they did do and i presume still do) and reap the rewards over here lol (overly charging but that's not illegal)

Anyways, I don't mind waiting if it makes the cards more of a appealing price

Guess ATI/DDR5 manufacturing is on overclock err i mean overtime lol

Well look on the bright side...........

Longer we wait maybe the better it is for not only the consumer but ATI as a whole ;)

Ciao

Def
 
Scougar said:
Guessing the price of the 1GB is interesting, but guess at initial pricing would around £260-£280.. more like £280. [I wouldn't be surprised if it released at £299 however
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Which is all I have ever said. It has been the trend so far on the 1GB cards. They come in short numbers with only a few AIB's chosing to purchase them from ATi they're almost an 'exclusive' product if you like which always ever demands an intial large sump premium.

I'd love the cards to be silly cheap but I can't see it happening. The retailers have the final shout so it's down to them.

Kyle how much do you think the 1GB is going to be?
 
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kylew said:
It's like OCUK's price gouging, they know that people who are desperate to have a certain graphics card, will buy it at an artificially inflated price, so they do just that, but what I don't get is that they must surely know that they'll sell many more by selling for less profit, but at a much higher volume.

They must know that they aren't going to get as many customers by pricing their cards at 20% higher than what they should be at.
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You clearly don't understand the different available business models. Not everyone is a Tesco-type retailer selling every other thing at 1% margin, but selling bucket loads of it.

Has it ever occurred to you that less customers who pay more in certain circumstances is more profitable than more customers who pay less?

It isn't all about turnover...
 
The_Abyss said:
You clearly don't understand the different available business models. Not everyone is a Tesco-type retailer selling every other thing at 1% margin, but selling bucket loads of it.

Has it ever occurred to you that less customers who pay more in certain circumstances is more profitable than more customers who pay less?

It isn't all about turnover...
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Well look at OCUK and their competitors? Why does OC overcharge so much on new graphics cards when other retailers don't?

How can OC expect to sell bucket loads when it's marked up by 20%, and you can get it at the suggested price else where?

If they sold it at suggested retail price, chances are they'd get an increase in sales much higher than 20%.

Look at it their current prices of newly released cards for a second. They all appear to be marked up by 20%. What does that mean? Well, if they had their 4870s at £211, it means the 4870s suggested price will be around £180.

$300 = £152 + VAT = £178 + 20% = £213

Do you get what I mean yet?

We have also seen 1GB 4870s listed for 260 euro which is about £205. So £180 for a 512MB, and £210 or so for a 1GB sounds pretty realistic based on what we've seen so far.

Based on that, OC's price for a 4870 should be around the £250, but it shouldn't be used as 'the price' for the 4870s.
 
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I'm sure OCUK know all about retailing thanks very much.

Just drop it would ya?!

You'll know how much they are selling for in due course, and then you can take your money and make your choice....
 
Tooks said:
I'm sure OCUK know all about retailing thanks very much.

Just drop it would ya?!

You'll know how much they are selling for in due course, and then you can take your money and make your choice....
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Well they obviously do, as they're a successful business, but their prices shouldn't be used as 'the price' because we know how they like to price gouge.

I'm the one who's getting told to drop this, yet I'm not the only one going on. Either way, this is a discussion forum.

I am very opinionated, and stubborn, as are a lot of others here, this is what you get on a forum with free discussion.
 
Yes, but you're not actually discussing anything with anybody are you?

You're just trotting out the same simplistic line, but dressed up in a very over complicated way, over half a dozen times.

It's pointless discussing the pricing, because the prices will be what the prices will be.

The way you're posting, it's like your first day on the forum to be honest.

Discussing pricing is against forum rules anyway, and you're being very negative about a store that pays for the very forums you're happily posting on... Just a thought!
 
I reckon 4870's 1GB's which are the only ones worth having... will be around £210 quickly dropping to £199 within 6 weeks with the GDDR5 ones around £250 for 1gb... but that's just my opinion.

Then we'll have the 4870x2 1GB (2x512) at around £250 and the 4870x2 2GB (2x1gb) at around £350-370 with the all conquering 4870x2 2GB GDDR5 monster at £480 notes

Cheers Pug
 
yeah, imagine 2x4870x2's each with 2gig ram on a Vista 32 system with 4gig system memory. That leaves what for your OS by the time the video cards memory is addressed ???
 
That reminds me! getting a 1GB 4870 means Vista will only have 3GB RAM instead of 3.25 it has now right?

Oooh err perhaps 64bit time ?

I will see reviews of the 512MB cards to see how they perform at 1920x1200. I don't use FSAA in most games if I don't have to or if they don't have options for it so can happily use this mem size if it works out nice for performance by brute force and shader optimisation.
 
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Yes, but you're not actually discussing anything with anybody are you?

You're just trotting out the same simplistic line, but dressed up in a very over complicated way, over half a dozen times.

It's pointless discussing the pricing, because the prices will be what the prices will be.

The way you're posting, it's like your first day on the forum to be honest.

Discussing pricing is against forum rules anyway, and you're being very negative about a store that pays for the very forums you're happily posting on... Just a thought!
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*coughs* :o

I'm not the only one who's saying it. As for being negative, I'm just pointing out what they're doing.

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reckon 4870s 1GBs which are the only ones worth having... will be around £210 quickly dropping to £199 within 6 weeks with the GDDR5 ones around £250 for 1gb... but that's just my opinion.

Then we'll have the 4870x2 1GB (2x512) at around £250 and the 4870x2 2GB (2x1gb) at around £350-370 with the all conquering 4870x2 2GB GDDR5 monster at £480 notes

Cheers Pug
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There's some rumors around saying that the issue of shared memory has been taken care of, or at least improved with the 4870X2, so we might not see a 2GB 4870X2 as it'd most probably be a waste of money/RAM chips.

I'm hoping ATi have gotten around the memory sharing issue, as it would make for a very nice graphics card that I think NV would struggle to better using a single slot solution (single PCIE slot that is, not a dual height card.).
 
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yeah, imagine 2x4870x2's each with 2gig ram on a Vista 32 system with 4gig system memory. That leaves what for your OS by the time the video cards memory is addressed ???
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That would mean its time to get a proper OS :P

64bit 4 the win!

As for the video memory, the 4870x2 has always rumored to be 1Gb which to me either indicates its 2x512mb or its 1gb shared, the later obviously being the better option, if ATI have sussed shared memory on a video card then the jolly green giant is in for a tough fight.
 
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That would mean its time to get a proper OS :P

64bit 4 the win!

As for the video memory, the 4870x2 has always rumored to be 1Gb which to me either indicates its 2x512mb or its 1gb shared, the later obviously being the better option, if ATI have sussed shared memory on a video card then the jolly green giant is in for a tough fight.
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Definitely, 64Bit is slowly beginning to become the 'must'. For the enthusiast, 4GB of RAM, while not being a small amount, is not a large amount either.

Plus the constantly increasing amounts of graphics RAM too, and the extremely cheap cost of DDR2 RAM.

This is the best time to 'upgrade' to at least 4GB. I'll be going 8GB in the next few months, maybe even next week! :p

64Bit is a big plus to me, for those with a high/ish end GPU and 4GB upwards, you couldn't have anything less than 64bit in my opinion.
 
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