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AMD To Launch RV770 On June 18th
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Depends what you have.
A GTX280 will be a massive boost to a 8800GT but hardly much better than a gx2 if those results are right.
In price only. Fudzilla were the only ones who implied that the 4870 was meant to compete with the 9800 GTX on a performance level, that's down to the 4850 if the 'leaked' slides are true.
I mean, I don't suppose nVidia would willingly slash the price of the GTX260 by $50 before release if they thought the 4870 was going to be a walkover. They're just not like that (when the 2900 XT turned out to be a flop, nVidia's response was to just to release a higher end part - the 8800 Ultra). On that note, the current rumoured prices actually put the GTX260 at only $50 (£30?) more than the 4870 - $349 vs. $399.
Edit: Just to sum up my ramblings, I feel the real reason that the 4870 is a reasonably low price (not that low, though) is that R700 (the X2 part) is supposed to come 6 weeks after the 4870 is released and they want to keep that $450+ slot open.
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Christ some dodgy chinese site puts up some more dubious benchies and were off on the rumour merry go round again. Right now i can see some chinese kid laughing his nuts off as he watches all this pointless debate about nothing. Sorry if that was the 4870 then why wouldn't they have mentioned it as that would get them far more kudos then putting a ? on it. Here's an idea maybe the ? was a 260 or a 280 for that matter maybe it was intel's laramee or maybe just maybe it is like i said some chinese guy jerking us all off knowing we got nothing better to do.
right a card that is currently almost twice the price the 4870 is mooted to be, much hotter and with more power draw, surely if the 4870 is that disappointing to you, you should want a GTX260 or 280?
No but the GTX260 and GTX280 maybe aren't as good as they hoped performance wise and that might explain the price drop.
The gx2 on those charts is still much quicker than a GTX260 and with a gx2 been £350 and at the old, pre drop price of $450 which would convert to more than £300 over here then hard to sell if £30-£50 got you a GX2.
Putting a £60-£80 gap makes them more attractive with the added bonus of only been £30 more than the 4870 which unless the performance is much, much better than these results show, then ATI isn't going to sell any 4870's anymore.
Nvidia will still have the fastest card money can buy for £450 - £500 so it's business as usual really.
This is based on my prediction that the GX2 may fall in price when the new cards are released, in which case I'd purchase one then and not before..
True, but what does it matter if the margins on the GTX260 are virtually non-existent? I mean GT200 does look impressive, but it also looks stupendously expensive to produce - I don't claim to have a PhD in engineering or anything, but clearly a chip with 1.3 billion transistors and a 512-bit memory interface (with its accompanying stupendously complex PCB) produced on a 65nm node is going to be a hell of a lot more expensive to produce than a 931 (or something) million transistor part with a 256-bit interface produced on a 55nm half-node. Even if nVidia outsell ATi with these cards, ATi are going to be better off.
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Will you be able to change the core and memory voltage on the new ati cards?
unlikely...hopefully pencil modding will be as easy as the 38xx series though.
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Looks like a Nvidia trick that, the 4850 is identical to the 3850, just the number on the HSF is different. 
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Looks like a Nvidia trick that, the 4850 is identical to the 3850, just the number on the HSF is different.
No, no, AMD doin' it wrong, it's the other way around, the 9800 GTX looks very different to the 8800 GTS 512, but is practically the same on the inside, whereas the 4850 looks identical to the 3850 but has changed quite a lot.
On that note, the 4850's fan is larger, and the fins are radial in a way that matches the shroud rather than in a block like the 3850's.
