Idk, don't have an nvidia gpu on hand to do a head-to-head. Was more curious about the performance aspect he mentioned. So if anyone could test those settings...
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AMD Vs. Nvidia Image Quality - Old man yells at cloud
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Idk, don't have an nvidia gpu on hand to do a head-to-head. Was more curious about the performance aspect he mentioned. So if anyone could test those settings...
The difference between Quality (top) and High Quality (bottom) in The Division.
Less than 1 fps in it - interestingly it shifted the load slightly higher on the GPU and took a little load off the CPU - assumedly with optimisations on the CPU is doing a bit more work for those before handing stuff to the GPU.
I tried to get some images for quality comparison but the game is so dynamic it is hard to get an exactly the same lighting, etc. situation in a static position between restarts of the game and I don't have the tools to hand to ensure I can capture the exact same frame from the benchmark.
Less than 1 fps in it - interestingly it shifted the load slightly higher on the GPU and took a little load off the CPU - assumedly with optimisations on the CPU is doing a bit more work for those before handing stuff to the GPU.
I tried to get some images for quality comparison but the game is so dynamic it is hard to get an exactly the same lighting, etc. situation in a static position between restarts of the game and I don't have the tools to hand to ensure I can capture the exact same frame from the benchmark.
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From your quote:
"...the first is to gain FPS comparable to AMD, the second is to use less vram..."
Why would nvidia target equal FPS as what AMD gets?
And why would they need textures compression in order to save VRAM? What would happen if game developers start releasing high-res (4K or even 8K) textures packs for the 16 GB framebuffer of the Radeon VII?
Actually they should do it.
Good stuff, did you use the rest of the settings as well?
Yes - some of them get changed between quality settings anyway.
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They will probably lock off options, so without enough vram you'll be limited to lower detail. As happened in a few games already.
Yes, which means nvidia's cards with less VRAM won't be able to compete anyways.
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Nice dithering.
No dithering.
Looks like one was taken with a phone and other was taken by screenshot.
Why I would want to worse the image quality? Is madness, all those years we wanted the best graphic card to push best image quality at high framerates.
More FPS.
AMD has a performance, standard and high mode for texture filtering. I'm guessing nvidia only support "performance" or "standard" equivalent.
7-8 years ago, I used to do it in order to get higher 3D Mark points.
But since then realised it is not worth it the efforts, so just always look for the best image quality possible. Unless it is unplayable, of course.
Also, Radeon Settings option for texture filtering quality actually provides more FPS with the setting being High, instead of Standard or Performance.
To get the nvidia framerate with equal image quality. Then, suddenly, the benchmarks charts will look different.
Lets be bit realistic shall we?
We have Freesync/Gsync monitors, so 120fps and 150fps are barely any visible difference on FPS. Even 100fps to 130fps there is no difference on experience.
Why would we want "more fps" at the cost of worse image quality is beyond me.
I do not give a tosh about benchmarks, because I do play games with my graphic cards and thats the purpose spend all that money for, not running benchmarks which are one off every blue moon.
Because the dumb masses look at benchmarks and see Nvidia cards usually get slightly better FPS, so they buy them. Even though the difference is pretty irrelevant and after about 80fps picture quality matters more.
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I'm never fond of benchmarks anyway to be honest. If there's a few FPS in it between an NV or AMD card, both options would be a good choice for example. Small changes to image quality is something that nobody will notice however. And I suspect AMD may win some and NV win others (different games).
Gaming experience to me is a combination of being realistic (hence RT is good), image quality and also FPS. It's also a reason I won't go 4K because realism and image quality to me also means setting "Ultra" everything or as much as posslble anyway. Using all of the effects the game offers also means getting my £ worth from the R&D that went into it all too
@LtMatt huh we found the solution for AMD get a speed boost on "reviewers" benchmarks, worsen the default graphics quality like Nvidia does
Free marketing advice......
Standard = Quality on nVidia, Performance = Performance and High = High Quality. AFAIK AMD doesn't have the same equivalent option as High Performance on nVidia. If there was any significant difference in it one or the other company wouldn't hesitate to take the other to task as it would be a huge PR win.
The difference between Quality (top) and High Quality (bottom) in The Division.
Less than 1 fps in it - interestingly it shifted the load slightly higher on the GPU and took a little load off the CPU - assumedly with optimisations on the CPU is doing a bit more work for those before handing stuff to the GPU.
I tried to get some images for quality comparison but the game is so dynamic it is hard to get an exactly the same lighting, etc. situation in a static position between restarts of the game and I don't have the tools to hand to ensure I can capture the exact same frame from the benchmark.
On the top image it looks ever so slightly near black is being crushed.