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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Jamin280672, Jul 20, 2018.

  1. Strife212

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    3900x no stock anywhere and 9900K can be had for £400 now. Also the good Intel motherboards cost way less.

    Just caved in and ordered a 9900K.
     
  2. beany_bot

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    I've bought the 3700x. To hell with waiting more. I've been waiting since 2015 lol.
     
  3. michty_me

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    Tempted to do the same although I do want a 3900X.
     
  4. RavenXXX2

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    9900k at £400, is that an Intel price cut?
     
  5. Strife212

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    Yes, went down last night.
     
  6. RavenXXX2

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    Yeah but nowhere else has cut it so maybe just this specific retailer is having it discounted for a bit.
     
  7. teppic

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    A permanent price drop seems likely as it's hard to justify to anyone at £480ish. It's no better really in gaming than the 9700K, and for anything else the 3900X easily beats it and includes a cooler. The 9900K at £400 and 9700K at £310 would be good competition for AMD.
     
  8. neil473

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    Has Hwinfo been specifically confirmed as a problem ? The AMD posts on Reddit said monitoring software without naming names. The Hwinfo guy has posted a reply in hwinfo forums.

    https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-Votage-Monitoring-for-Ryzen-3000-Processors

    I don't have any confirmation for this issue yet, but theoretically it's possible that HWiNFO might be affected. It might also depend on system configuration and what kind of/how many system components are being monitored.
    If I get such a confirmation, I will surelyy look for some solution.
     
  9. Oblivion007

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    Regardless of whether you're team red or team blue - this is why AMD being competitive in the market place is good for all!
     
  10. michty_me

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    Totally agree!
     
  11. Rainmaker

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    The post I read was by an AMD rep and mentioned hwinfo specifically. It included screenshots of CPU-Z and Ryzen Master and said to only use those two, at least until other apps patch and fix the issue.
     
  12. Lolik

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    HWiNFO works like a dream, loses sensors if tinkering in bios or ryzen master like voltages,offsets,multiplier etc.
     
  13. neil473

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    If its this one, i think the AMD rep only mentions hwinfo with dont have multiple monitoring apps open that might contend.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/

    There is a further response from Martin hwinfo in that thread .

    Not trying to be contrary, I dont have Ryzen 3000 so cant try it myself ( currently 2700x ) but am considering it , couldn't live without Hwinfo, see interested to see where this goes ..


    I still don't have any confirmation that HWiNFO would be affected by this phenomenon. It is not polling the CPU as aggressively as described, so I don't expect a big issue here.

    Honestly speaking, this time AMD has failed big in supporting 3rd party tools. We are still missing several information and advanced support. Some quirks (like detection of sleeping cores) is AMD keeping for themselves, which is a shame. I'm ready to investigate this issue in more detail and take actions if needed. But this requires support from the other side too.

    Today I'm planning to release a new Beta build of HWiNFO (v6.09-3855), which should reduce the CPU polling a bit more.

    Martin, HWiNFO Author


    Might be worth trying the beta if you've Ryzen 3000
     
  14. easyrider

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    Get a 3600 as a stop gap until 3900x comes in stock
     
  15. michty_me

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    Na, I would rather wait. I'm not much of a fiddler with settings so would rather buy into it when everything is more stable.
    I've been waiting ages to upgrade, a few months more won't make a difference.
     
  16. chroniclard

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    Can wait for the 3950X :D
     
  17. Zernath

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    I'd get the 3700X personally, I didn't see a substantial enough difference between the two to warrant the extra £50, but either one is probably overkill for current gen games.
     
  18. michty_me

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    Haha no, I think the 3900X is overkill for me just now but I keep my systems a long time.
    Saying that, I could get a lesser processor now and upgrade when the next zen release happens. Hmm
     
  19. welshrat

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    I think thats is a wise choice, I couldn't choose between the 3800x, 3900X or 3700X in teh end I went 3700X as I have only had the 2600 for 6 months and been so impressed with it that surely I will be happy with the 3700X, it also means when next years refresh comes I wont mind spending again.
     
  20. beany_bot

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    Got it :)

    Exactly my thinking. Saved £160 and already got PCI 4.0 so I can defo see myself buying again Ryzen 4000.
     
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