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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Woodsta888 said:
Given up on mine abit too. Cant get my 3600Mhz RAM to run stably after much tinkering. It will POST and boot into windows and run memory tests and benches all day long. But gaming...Start to hear the audio break up then crashes to a reboot. CBA with faffing too much and hope new BIOS's etc will enhance compatability down the line.
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How high is your FCLK? I get audio corruption over 1800MHz.
 
harney said:
Best i can get with one of my 3700x on a Tomahawk b350 with beta bios thus far ..still tweaking ...its a pain one wrong move and its pull out battery time.. as clear cmos does not work with this bios..

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one thing that caught my attention was low write speeds re way AMD had changed the byte cycles .. does not effect the 3900x just the rest

however some reviewers where getting higher write scores with the 3700x as seen in the link below and a few pages in ..could this be just the reviewers just being lazy & disabling cores on the 3900x to make a 3700x

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...lf-the-performance-on-single-ccd-cpus.257182/

whats your thought on this ?
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One comment on the B350 Tomahawk.... I have found that once you crash from a bad OC, you need to pull the battery as it will no longer be stable even at stock settings. It is very very weird. And bear in mind I have a 1600 not a 3xxx series.
 
So my max is 1833 cl 14 for ram and infinty, if someone knows how to tweak something to get the IF to 1900 let me know, because I can get my ram to 3800mhz but not the IF.

STILL can't get the cpu to boost over 4.25 single and 4.1 multi. Tried pbo auto, enabled, told it to ignore limits.
Set a manual voltage for the cpu, tried auto, tried normal.
Tried high and extreme llc, tried low.
Tried extreme performance mode on the chipset, tried disabling pbo, tried some other setting that made it boost to 3.8ghz.

This is pretty poo. At least the ram is clocking well even if my cpu is boosting less than my 2700x and less than the 3900x on my ultra gaming potato motherboard.....
 
Hardware unboxed's vid today is showing that manually tuning RAM can make a bigger difference in games than just clock rate where it's CPU limited.

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teppic said:
Hardware unboxed's vid today is showing that manually tuning RAM can make a bigger difference in games than just clock rate where it's CPU limited.

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Look at this I was right for around 3 years worth of ryzen cpus overclocking STUNNING :D but Since I dont have tech channel or web site no one will listen as always.

Best thing... Steve's best timings are 2ns below what I got running at lower volts than him hahhaha
 
They don't compare the 9900K in that benchmark, but as it was only about 3fps ahead at very high quality settings, it's likely the 3900X with tuned memory is very comfortably ahead of the 9900K at 5GHz -- not totally fair as the Intel wasn't tuned, but I don't think it gains much at all from it.
 
teppic said:
They don't compare the 9900K in that benchmark, but as it was only about 3fps ahead at very high quality settings, it's likely the 3900X with tuned memory is very comfortably ahead of the 9900K at 5GHz -- not totally fair as the Intel wasn't tuned, but I don't think it gains much at all from it.
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No they are not. I got my own section on polish forums Ask Zeed about memories testing and stability. And memory tuning on intel does not give as much barely anything. Its cause of chiplet and ccx design zen2 is using.
Give people few months and they will discover that locking games to obe chiplet and system task to first with process laso also gives performance in games on 13 core cpu cause 12 threads is enough for 90%games iw tested hehe. Aaa and random hickup is also gone at least when playing raids in wow on dx12 and same with division 2 :).
 
Zeed said:
No they are not. I got my own section on polish forums Ask Zeed about memories testing and stability. And memory tuning on intel does not give as much barely anything. Its cause of chiplet and ccx design zen2 is using.
Give people few months and they will discover that locking games to obe chiplet and system task to first with process laso also gives performance in games on 13 core cpu cause 12 threads is enough for 90%games iw tested hehe. Aaa and random hickup is also gone at least when playing raids in wow on dx12 and same with division 2 :).
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Yeah I'd heard that memory tuning on Intel doesn't do much. It looks like if you tuned 3600MHz memory, which basically all 3900x can do fine, and then compared with the 9900K at 5GHz the gaming results would overall come out with the 3900X on top, with some games 10-20% faster.
 
teppic said:
Yeah I'd heard that memory tuning on Intel doesn't do much. It looks like if you tuned 3600MHz memory, which basically all 3900x can do fine, and then compared with the 9900K at 5GHz the gaming results would overall come out with the 3900X on top, with some games 10-20% faster.
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I don't think the tech media will ever allow us to see that comparison. Though in reality, that's the one we all want to see; best possible performance from each product, exotic cooling aside.
 
Potatowithearsontheside said:
I don't think the tech media will ever allow us to see that comparison. Though in reality, that's the one we all want to see; best possible performance from each product, exotic cooling aside.
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Hardware Unboxed went most of the way by comparing 3600MHz RAM on the 3900x with PBO enabled vs the 9900K at 5GHz (also 3600MHz RAM), that's where the average 5% or so lead across 36 games for the 9900K comes from. Now this test shows how much you can gain by just manually tuning the memory, but there's nothing directly to compare the 9900K to.
 
teppic said:
Yeah I'd heard that memory tuning on Intel doesn't do much. It looks like if you tuned 3600MHz memory, which basically all 3900x can do fine, and then compared with the 9900K at 5GHz the gaming results would overall come out with the 3900X on top, with some games 10-20% faster.
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I could ask UFO th run me some benchmatk of Tuned vs XMP on hest 5ghz intel in some game.
 
@Zeed now this stupid mb won't post when setting basic things like you had. It booted to Windows, I restarted the pc entered the bios to check everything was okay, now it won't post again
 
Zeed said:
No they are not. I got my own section on polish forums Ask Zeed about memories testing and stability. And memory tuning on intel does not give as much barely anything. Its cause of chiplet and ccx design zen2 is using.
Give people few months and they will discover that locking games to obe chiplet and system task to first with process laso also gives performance in games on 13 core cpu cause 12 threads is enough for 90%games iw tested hehe. Aaa and random hickup is also gone at least when playing raids in wow on dx12 and same with division 2 :).
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Oh, those bloody hickup and random crashes (even on stable stock system) with dx12 is why a lot of ppl (me including) playing with dx11 (nvm 20-30% fps drop)in division2. Going to test now with tight timings etc :p
 
Lolik said:
Oh, those bloody hickup and random crashes (even on stable stock system) with dx12 is why a lot of ppl (me including) playing with dx11 (nvm 20-30% fps drop)in division2. Going to test now with tight timings etc :p
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Well I dont have hickups or random crash like at all nto sicne I'w set up my rig to use 1 chiplet for gaming other for system :]

Made small video how i got stuff set up atm: @humbug there ya go 3900x power in actuall use :)

@Illuminist can You send that junk back and get something that is not gigabyte ?? Or You are stuck with 1 board with crap vrm and other that got good vrm but runs like **** ??
 
Zeed said:
Well I dont have hickups or random crash like at all nto sicne I'w set up my rig to use 1 chiplet for gaming other for system :]

Made small video how i got stuff set up atm: @humbug there ya go 3900x power in actuall use :)

@Illuminist can You send that junk back and get something that is not gigabyte ?? Or You are stuck with 1 board with crap vrm and other that got good vrm but runs like **** ??
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I bought the x570 on the mm, in considering seeing if he'll take it back but I doubt it
 
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