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So is the little fan on the x570 board really that bad?
I can't speak for all boards but on the Gigabyte X570 ITX board its barely audible, and my PC is fairly silent being totally watercooled. I think if anyone complains about it they're making a mountain out of a molehill :) - To notice it I have to specifically listen for it. I imagine if I had typical air cooling on my system I wouldn't be able to pick it up.
 
I know it likely won't happen as big companies don't listen to the average consumer but I hope AMD eventually move away from the overly easily breakable/bendable pin grid array they use on their CPU's and go with LGA, OR even come up with a new contact pad system with no easily breakable pins in sight.

Also put a better socket mechanism in place, The amount of times I've heard of people pulling out the CPU when removing the CPU cooler, I've done this myself even after running a 30 minute CPU stress test to warm up the TIM, Luckily I've not broken or bent pins with this issue but I know people who have, AMD need a proper clamping mechanism.
 
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To be fair your right, happened to me for first time dismantling my older setup last year to get the AIO off and took my time bending the pins back.
 
What's considered a good temperature for a 3700x water cooled? I'm using two 240mm alphacool nexxos xt45 rads and my temps are around 70C in cinebench r20 which to me seems rather high. It's actually the same temp I had with a single radiator, I thought adding another one to the loop would decrease the temperature but it didn't.
 
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What's considered a good temperature for a 3700x water cooled? I'm using two 240mm alphacool nexxos xt45 rads and my temps are around 70C in cinebench r20 which to me seems rather high. It's actually the same temp I had with a single radiator, I thought adding another one to the loop would decrease the temperature but it didn't.

This is purely anecdotal, but I remember someone saying they had higher temps than expected with the 3700X and an Eisbaer. Turns out the CPU or cooler's CPU block (or possibly both) needed lapping for best results. Can't find it now, so I'm not sure if it's common or not. Poor contact might explain why the second rad did nothing for you though?
 
This is purely anecdotal, but I remember someone saying they had higher temps than expected with the 3700X and an Eisbaer. Turns out the CPU or cooler's CPU block (or possibly both) needed lapping for best results. Can't find it now, so I'm not sure if it's common or not. Poor contact might explain why the second rad did nothing for you though?

would not surprise me and yeah it's not the first high temp 3700x on a water loop that I've seen here.
 
I've just put in an order for the X570 Aorus Elite. Asus have similar dropped support for my board so I presume I wouldn't be able to upgrade to a 4000 chip if I wanted to.

Plus the Pcie 4 will come in handy for those next gen GPU's.
 
I've just put in an order for the X570 Aorus Elite. Asus have similar dropped support for my board so I presume I wouldn't be able to upgrade to a 4000 chip if I wanted to.

Plus the Pcie 4 will come in handy for those next gen GPU's.
Good call. Make sure you update to the latest BIOS asap. Also let us know if you manage to overclock the 3700X any further.

I definitely suggest you at least OC your ram a little. Will help your latency. Go find my posts on it if you want.
 
Good call. Make sure you update to the latest BIOS asap. Also let us know if you manage to overclock the 3700X any further.

I definitely suggest you at least OC your ram a little. Will help your latency. Go find my posts on it if you want.
What's the best way of testing latency? Read and write etc.

I downloaded the aida stuff just it was trail and didn't show much info.
 
Good call. Make sure you update to the latest BIOS asap. Also let us know if you manage to overclock the 3700X any further.

I definitely suggest you at least OC your ram a little. Will help your latency. Go find my posts on it if you want.

My ram is technically already overclocked. I've got the Darkpro 3200Mhz running at 3600Mhz but I'll definitely give the dram calc another go. I'm hoping I can raise my fclk above 1800Mhz as that would be a big win.
 
My ram is technically already overclocked. I've got the Darkpro 3200Mhz running at 3600Mhz but I'll definitely give the dram calc another go. I'm hoping I can raise my fclk above 1800Mhz as that would be a big win.
I went 3733 because it would run on relatively low voltage and any more gains after that in terms of latency would be minimal.

What's the best way of testing latency? Read and write etc.

I downloaded the aida stuff just it was trail and didn't show much info.

I used AIDA and it has a dedicated latency test that runs in like 10 seconds or less. Also to compare with others I used this: https://www.passmark.com/products/performancetest/download.php

Go to the 3600 thread and go back like 10 pages or something you can see all my results and others doing comparisons.
 
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Do we know yet why motherboard manufactures have drivers such as chipset and lan which are close to 500Mb each when if you go to say AMD or Intel to get the drivers directly they are more like 50Mb....

I never install these and just get them from the source.
 
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