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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Ok folks, from what i just took away from that presentation.

That was a ryzen 5 8 core part, it looks like it will be totally finishing off the 9900k - not sure what intel is going to do with this as it was faster and likely not running final speeds so all the "M-u-h 9900 overclock" fanatics should take a valium and sit down.
There clearly was another space for another module next to the compute die on the chip Lisa showed, so 12 and 16 core parts must be coming ... so there is your R7 and R9 leaks ready to go. So well... intel really is in a LOT of trouble here.

All we need is prices.

As for Vega 2, its came out practically right on the nose where i thought it would - i was expecting 1080ti or 2080 + or - 5% and thats what we have, surprised about the large ram support though... the price could do with a 50$ drop to really move it along but if it overclocks like the old V56 then it will be a decent, if somewhat stop gap card.. but then neither the 2080 or 2080ti can hardly be called fantastic either can they.

But.. that ryzen die shot... well it says it all now... Intel is in deep trouble this year.
 
If it had been an midrange R5 cpu vs the 9900k it would have been mentioned. It'd be a massive PR result, the fact they didn't means it's more likely to be a directly comparable tier of cpu.

Price is the big factor. It could still be inline with Intel because it'll drop into their existing platform. They know they'll get sales from people upgrading who'll be happy with just having a cpu to buy vs that and a mb.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
if the frequency was 5ghz stable they would have shown it. its going to be lower than many think who are swept up with the hype. same as the price.
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Why does frequency matter at all if the performance is better? If they perform like that at 4.5 GHz would you not buy one because it isn't running at 5 GHz?
 
A 700 quid Vega 7 meh meh no thanks.

I think she messed up also on the very strange choice of demos (Forza horizon 4 with zen2 and vega7). I'm sure that had to be at 4k and not 1080p. I get over and around 100fps fully maxed out at 1440p with an 8700k @5ghz and a water cooled Vega 64. Those numbers don't make sense, plus the whole show aimed at 4k when focusing on the gaming news.
 
easyrider said:
8 core 16 thread Ryzen just beating stock a 9900k I saw

Why is this good?

My 9900k 5 ghz all core trashes it into the ground.
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A Ryzen 5 beats an i9 and you dont think that's good? Are you not grasping that it's a Ryzen 5? vs an i9? Imagine how well the Ryzen 7 will do. Or the Ryzen 9!!!!!

You're just trying to justify all the money you have spent on your £499 9900k and the £30,000 sound studio we all keep hearing about.
 
DragonQ said:
Why does frequency matter at all if the performance is better? If they perform like that at 4.5 GHz would you not buy one because it isn't running at 5 GHz?
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games ? that many will buy the cpu
DragonQ said:
Why does frequency matter at all if the performance is better? If they perform like that at 4.5 GHz would you not buy one because it isn't running at 5 GHz?
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game 1 matches 9900k at stock with amd 4.5. which is the probable limit. then the 9900k clocks to 5ghz and is ahead. the price stable clock speed which wont be near 5ghz stock is all very much in the air.
 
The power readings are interesting since it is for the Core i9 9900K at its default 95W TDP. So its like a 65W class Core i9 9900K. So that means clocks must be not that high IMHO.

So what happens when AMD has similar 95W TDP equivalents?? I think we now know why the 9900KF was released.
 
easyrider said:
8 core 16 thread Ryzen just beating stock a 9900k I saw

Why is this good?

My 9900k 5 ghz all core trashes it into the ground.
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A 6% overclock does not "trash" anything, and these are not final clocks for Ryzen 3. Overclocking really hasn't isn't worth it for the vast majority of people on either Intel or AMD's current flagship CPUs.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
games ? that many will buy the cpu



game 1 matches 9900k at stock with amd 4.5. which is the probable limit. then the 9900k clocks to 5ghz and is ahead. the price stable clock speed which wont be near 5ghz stock is all very much in the air.
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The 9900k still boosted as shown in the 177 watt power draw and how many FPS does a 5ghz overclock gain compared to normal turbo speeds?
 
DragonQ said:
A 6% overclock does not "trash" anything, and these are not final clocks for Ryzen 3.
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He is also ignoring that looking at the power consumption readings,it looks like this is a 65W TDP Ryzen 2 model.

So a low clockspeed,TDP limited Ryzen 2 matching a Core i9 9900K.AMD have on purpose done this.
 
if you have a strong hand you show it. the clocks will be low. not super high . 4.5ghz will be the stable speed watch.
 
If this is a ryzen 5... and it sure looks like that.... just look at the chip shot, thats a dead give away that there is a second module ready to go on that substrate...
If that is the 5, then the 9900k is in VERY big trouble.

Yeah i can see the vega 2 being a bit meh - but i would give it till the proper reviews, as a 2080 competitor with 16Gb of ram for near the same price is not that bad.
Only thing i am miffed at is not hearing about Navi really.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
if you have a strong hand you show it. the clocks will be low. not super high . 4.5ghz will be the stable speed watch.
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Why do you hate AMD? What did they do to you?

You don't "show" your strong hand lol. Not 6 months before launch. Have you ever played poker? That gives Intel 6 months to respond.
 
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