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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

bakes0310 said:
Really want a amd build but I think I'll be waiting on am5 for it to be worth while going from a 6700k.
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I do have a 6700k too, but I will switch back to amd if the rumors are true.
It is worth the money if you do a lot video editing/rendering, etc. like me.

I'm just struggling with myself, which cpu I should buy. The 3850x would be amazing, because of the high clock speed... but on the other side, Zen2+ will launch in 2020 and zen3 in 2021...?! So maybe I will just go with the 3700x in the first step
 
Zen2+ will be little more than a power efficiency update so not really worth waiting for. It's not going to change the world like Zen2 will. I've been waiting 18 months for Zen2 since I saw it on AMD's roadmap.
 
Andyman82 said:
I do have a 6700k too, but I will switch back to amd if the rumors are true.
It is worth the money if you do a lot video editing/rendering, etc. like me.

I'm just struggling with myself, which cpu I should buy. The 3850x would be amazing, because of the high clock speed... but on the other side, Zen2+ will launch in 2020 and zen3 in 2021...?! So maybe I will just go with the 3700x in the first step
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I'm interested in seeing Intel's response to AMD's chips, i don't think I'm going to jump straight to AMD without seeing what they do first.
 
With the 16 core CPU's, AMD better be quicker than usual at updating the Threadripper chips or the platform will die.
 
amigafan2003 said:
With the 16 core CPU's, AMD better be quicker than usual at updating the Threadripper chips or the platform will die.
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It's very likely they will be quicker than usual this time around. TR won't die though it still has quad channel ram and a lot more pcie lanes, mainstream Ryzen will never have the same HEDT features as TR.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
I'm interested in seeing Intel's response to AMD's chips, i don't think I'm going to jump straight to AMD without seeing what they do first.
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Yet you'll jump straight into "Intel's response"? Which would otherwise still have 4 cores. I would respect Intel if they continued making 4 core i7 chips because then they wouldn't look so two-faced. The ethics and morality behind what they have been doing for the last 10 years makes me want to scream and throw an egg at their CEO.
 
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amigafan2003 said:
With the 16 core CPU's, AMD better be quicker than usual at updating the Threadripper chips or the platform will die.
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I don't think they'll need to be that quick - TR/TR2 still hold significant advantages for HEDT, will all depend on the number of PCIE lanes that Zen2 offers and if every part is duel channel, or if some of them are quad etc.

Personally I hope TR3 gets 8 channel RAM and a to help with the cross die memory access
 
BongoHunter said:
I don't think they'll need to be that quick - TR/TR2 still hold significant advantages for HEDT, will all depend on the number of PCIE lanes that Zen2 offers and if every part is duel channel, or if some of them are quad etc.

Personally I hope TR3 gets 8 channel RAM and a to help with the cross die memory access
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8 channel RAM is for EPYC. It won't be on TR, nor is it needed. Plus Zen 2's centralised I/O design eliminates the cross-die memory access weirdness we saw with the 2970WX and 2990WX.
 
bakes0310 said:
Really want a amd build but I think I'll be waiting on am5 for it to be worth while going from a 6700k.
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Well that depends entirely on what you do with your computer; the existing 2700X is already superior to the 6700K when it comes to heavily-threaded tasks and the CES demo was specifically constructed to match the 9900K with only half of what Ryzen 3000 can potentially do.

So it's fair to say that it's already "worth" moving from the 6700K in certain situations, and most definitely worth it come June/July; it is looking very likely that everything below the 9700K is going to get utterly kicked in the teeth by Ryzen 3000. And if AM5 is the next socket, you're waiting until after 2020 for it to show up, and we have no clue what Zen 3 will bring. It could be a massive regression for AMD, it could have serious competition from a resurgent Intel, it could extend its dominance and crush Intel into dust.

If you want to build an AMD system, rather than need to upgrade from your 6700K, I really don't see any reason not to come Ryzen 3000 release.
 
LePhuronn said:
8 channel RAM is for EPYC. It won't be on TR, nor is it needed. Plus Zen 2's centralised I/O design eliminates the cross-die memory access weirdness we saw with the 2970WX and 2990WX.
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Agree it shouldn't be needed but have seen nothing to confirm yet?

Would hope Zen2 Ryzen alone offers double the lanes if you double the chiplets - but again nothing confirmed....
 
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4K8KW10 said:
What about quad-channel memory for the APUs?! They need it the most.
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Anyone who needs that level of performance would buy a graphics card anyway.

Some gamers on an extremely tight budget buy APUs because they cant afford a GPU. Yet if they have spare cash to spend on quad-channel memory, surely it would make sense to buy a cheap GPU instead.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Anyone who needs that level of performance would buy a graphics card anyway. Some gamers on an extremely tight budget buy APUs because they cant afford a GPU so they couldn't afford quad-channel memory either.
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You don't know how many old systems get four sticks of memory over years of upgrades...
 
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