Yes indeed. I was dissapointed with the board selection for AM4. Hoping for more confidence (backing) from board partners come Zen 2
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Indeed, unless they've got some golden CPU's that do 4.5GHz at low volts, who will buy them?.
Right, and this close to Ryzen 3000?
They must have realised (looking at sales of 2080Ti's) that some people have more money than sense. And will happily go from 2700x - golden 2700x - 3700x in a few short months. Might aswell try and sell them than throw them in the stock pile.
I honestly don't mind them doing that, they can have a 'special chip' specially rare binned at a high cost and call it the "super-fragilistic-expialidocious-gaming!" (yes spelling was googled) have at it AMD you deserve to earn some money too, just as long as they keep the value on everything else.
The anniversary stuff in the past has came with extra 'fan' bits and bobs like signed plaques/dead chips (think the Vega VII weird press edition glass mounting thing). I imagine this is just a collectors item than a rearranging of the product stack.
Unknown. X570 boards look to be announced in late May so maybe shortly after that?
Keynote is 27th May. So I suspect mid june realistically to have it in your paws.
There is zero point keeping the same socket... Claiming it is better than Intel always changing sockets if a new processor can't make use of the board even though it fits. I expect the stuff to work, but with acceptable caveats.
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I was talking about the B450 boards specifically. I have an Asus B450I Strix mini-ITX board(which is ironically the best B450 board Asus make and has the second best VRMs after the MSI B450 mini-ITX board),but when it came to their mATX and ATX B450 boards,it was shown repeatedly that Asus and Gigabyte were not that great. The sad thing is that until recently MSI had no LLC support,so he said Asus/Gigabyte had better BIOSes but crapper B450 boards and thought it was funny.
If you watch the videos I linked to,you can hear what Buildzoid said especially regarding the horrible VRM heatsinks used on their mATX/ATX B450 boards,and the fact the VRMs on the Asus and Gigabyte B450 were lower specced than the MSI ones.
He was mocking some of the Asus and Gigabyte B450 mATX/ATX boards when comparing them to the equivalent ones from MSI. Even Hardware Unboxed did not recommend a single Asus or Gigabyte B450 board either,and since Gamers Nexus had Buildzoid do that video for them,I assume they also agree when virtually all the boards under $150(£120) are MSI.
You can see that with the general recommendations for the best mATX B450 board which is the B450M Mortar,and the best B450 ATX boards which are the B450 Tomahawk and Gaming AC.
The sad thing is that during the AM3+ era Asus made the best 970 midrange boards for the Phenom II and Bulldozer CPUs. The 970 EVO was built like a tank and had fantastic VRM cooling. They are more worried about RGB now.
I means its funny that my mini-ITX Asus B450I Strix VRM is rated more than the entire range of Asus and Gigabyte full sized B450 boards. The B450 board with the highest rated VRMs of any B450 board is the MSI mini-ITX one. The Gigabyte B450 mini-ITX board is also their best one apparently.
Its almost like Asus and Gigabyte(and to a lesser degree the others),are trying to upsell the X470 boards. Its a shame compared to the AM3/AM3+ days. I think Asus/Gigabyte sat on their laurels whilst MSI had to prove themselves after their crap AMD boards in the past.
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Which is why this claim from MSI is either a miscommunication, a misreporting or MSI making up an excuse. If every board vendor said the same of their 300-series boards then we'd have a bigger issue. Could it be MSI couldn't fit the new CPUs into the BIOS? Could it be MSI took some shortcuts with their 300 boards because they weren't convinced Ryzen would take off, and now it's biting them in the ass?
What have I missed with MSI here?
beany, my love, I fully agree with you that trawling through this discussion is a chore, but if you're gonna jump back in for a bit then at least jump in a couple of pages back for a refresher 
haha. True dat!beany, my love, I fully agree with you that trawling through this discussion is a chore, but if you're gonna jump back in for a bit then at least jump in a couple of pages back for a refresher
Looks like they skimped on VRMS etc on the early boards. Alas, I will be needing a new board anyway for Ryzen 3000
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That is what Gigabyte posted a few days ago.
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Its no point using an old board anyway if you have not got a Ryzen system already. I expect some Zen 2 features won't work fully on the B450/X470 boards anyway. IIRC,the 400 series supported overclocking of Zen+ better than the 300 series. As long as I can run an 8C Ryzen 2 in my B450 board at stock frequencies I am fine.
Agree, already got my eye on a "as yet nonexistent" Gigabyte X570 AORUS GAMING 7 or thereabouts.
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I would wait until the reviews filter through on the boards,ie,make sure the VRMs and cooling looks fine. I am more vary of motherboard companies now,as they tend to push aesthetics over functionality which is self defeating IMHO.
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Will be really interesting to see the clocks that can be achieved with this one!
Might be worth a purchase to upgrade my R7 1700 if the prices are reasonable...