Now we need to know if those figures relate to the reported B0 stepping or earlier samples. Factoring in slightly higher IPC and more cores for an equivalent price I can see Intel being matched and beaten depending on the benchmark. I think the 5GHz clocks may come with Ryzen 4000 tweaks.
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Now we need to know if those figures relate to the reported B0 stepping or earlier samples. Factoring in slightly higher IPC and more cores for an equivalent price I can see Intel being matched and beaten depending on the benchmark. I think the 5GHz clocks may come with Ryzen 4000 tweaks.
Soldato
I love how people are saying "cool, cool i'll get the 3600x" and "Im going to go for the 3700x", "3700 for me".
Guys... wtf. How can you possible say that stuff? You don't actually have a clue yet what is getting released. We don't even know that they will be called 3xxx at all, let alone what the "3600" would be exactly.
All we have is some leaks. Yet people are talking like its concrete stuff.
Guys... wtf. How can you possible say that stuff? You don't actually have a clue yet what is getting released. We don't even know that they will be called 3xxx at all, let alone what the "3600" would be exactly.
All we have is some leaks. Yet people are talking like its concrete stuff.
Soldato
3599X for me
Associate
Active cooling on some X570 chipset/mobo's is a little concerning, must be running fairly hot under certain conditions/load.
Not too long now though, the higher peak clock speed on the 12 core is looking like where it's at.
But it will be interesting to see how far the 16 core can be OCed on water though.
Soooo looking forward to it.
Not too long now though, the higher peak clock speed on the 12 core is looking like where it's at.
But it will be interesting to see how far the 16 core can be OCed on water though.
Soooo looking forward to it.
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Soldato
Well when you start offering a PCH with double or maybe even quadruple the bandwidth available to the rest of the board, if you are pushing data through most/all of those PCI-E lanes it's gonna get hot. Lets not forget that most of the Zen/Zen+ lanes were supplied by the CPU which is actively cooled, and the PCH on the X470 etc. was only 4x lanes of PCI-E 3.0 split into whatever the board manufacturer saw fit.
Soldato
Indeed. If the tops boards have active cooling, I will look at modding with a bigger passive solution, swiftly.
Soldato
They will, start looking for mods now.
Soldato
Depending on the storage configuration of choice, there's more power drawn through the chipset than what's typical.
Caporegime
I'm getting a 3600X.
Soldato
What if the 3600X turns out to be poor value for money and the 3700X makes more sense? I mean I understand it's not likely but what's the point in saying what you will buy before we even know anything meaningful about it?
Caporegime
Depends on price, whatever its going to be its going to be better than my 1600. which has served me very well, great chip.
Soldato
I am in the same boat though, I am on a 1700 and a poorly clocking one at that. A 3600X/3700X should be a significant jump.
Soldato
Leaks only. We don't know anything yet. Omg people need to be realistic here.
Caporegime
I would have ungraded to a 2600X by now if it was not for Zen 2 being just around the corner.
Soldato
I did say should. The clock speed jump (being that the 2700X is already 450Mhz faster than my clocked 1700) alone should make it worthwhile even without additional IPC or cores.
Soldato
Oh same here. Im likely going to be buying Zen 2.
But Im not going around saying "x" chip is a certain spec or discussing what we are planning to buy based on leaks. We just don't know what is coming yet.
Associate
the one thing making me fairly moist is the *upto 4000mhz (OC) memory compat listed under the x570 board specs ( other than the fairly beefy VRM and PCI-E IO ) hopefully this generally does translate into meaningful performance increases across single and multi IPC
Associate
Correct we don't. Though with reasonable speculation on what's possible and with recent leaks suggesting the original thought processes around performance seem to be accurate, we can make educated guesses as to what suits our needs prior to release. Doesn't mean we shouldn't wait for more information and actual release testing though.
Soldato
Both the 3 and 4 series boards support 4000 memory, you just have bugger all chance of running it that fast
.I'm interested to see if Zen 2 can run faster memory on 3/4 series boards. Will be completely "unsupported" and YMMV but should be possible