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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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Soldato
There is precedent
I'd like to see more testing repeated to give people more of a sense that the figures are not exact and will vary. I think some expect that add it is computing everything will be perfectly repeatable. We need the equivalent term to biological variation
which I suppose silicon lottery is!
They were provided to MSI by AMD, MSI spoke about that on their stream and said they were unsure if its a mistake.
Probability 13% over Zen+ and 15% over Zen. From AMD's disclaimer:
[^2 Testing by AMD Performance Labs as of 5/23.2918 AMD “Zen2” CPU-based
system scored an estimated 15% higher than previous generation AMD “Zen” based
system using estimated SPECint®_rate_base2006 results. SPEC and SPECint are
registered trademarks of the Standard Performance Evaluation Corporation.
See www.spec.org. GD-141]
Caporegime
IPC doesn't scale evenly across different workloads, AMD and MSI are probably testing different things
The slide was provided to MSI by AMD, this isn't MSI testing.
MSI has nothing to do with this. wccftech speaks unconnected things. That is the official slides pack:
https://videocardz.com/80798/amd-ryzen-3000-series-12-core-ryzen-9-3900x-at-499-usd
This is the keynote.
Caporegime
Right... 13% vs 15% i don't think it matters much.
Caporegime
its higher/lower!!!!! IT MATTERS!
It might matter to some if its losing vs winning against Intel, by 1 percentage point
Caporegime
I can already see it.
9900K 178 FPS
3800X 176 FPS
SEE. INTEL BETTER GAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9900K 178 FPS
3800X 176 FPS
SEE. INTEL BETTER GAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It might matter to some if its losing vs winning against Intel, by 1 percentage point
dont forget the 720P test scores as you know we all game at 720P
Caporegime
dont forget the 720P test scores as you know we all game at 720P
Right.
Tho i do think its right to do that when testing CPU performance in games, if the GPU is doing the work its not a CPU test.
Soldato
That moment when reviews show AMD faster than Intel for gaming, glorious.
im serious, and dont call me Shirley!
yeah was being a touch sarcastic as a few on here will be waving them scores as proof one cpu is better than another when in the real world you wouldnt be able to tell. because reason and intelligence goes out the window when trying to prove a point after all
Soldato
Don't worry, regardless of how well these chips perform we can all be assured that DG will manage to find some benchmark in which Intel is still faster.
It may well be BF1 at 240p with CSGO updating in the background with 4x RTX titans.
But whatever it is. He will find it and claim Intel superiority.
It may well be BF1 at 240p with CSGO updating in the background with 4x RTX titans.
But whatever it is. He will find it and claim Intel superiority.
Caporegime
That would be a great moment, what would be fantastic is when they say "we will be switching to the 3800X from now on in our GPU tests because its faster"
Watch the internet go thermonuclear.
Soldato
"Look! We achieve 24,000 fps at 240p lowest details in CS Source and the 3800X only achieves 23,950!"