Yup reckon you won't see desktop parts until end of next year or early 2020.
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Yup reckon you won't see desktop parts until end of next year or early 2020.
That's highly doubtful. Not only would it make the announcement at CES next month redundant but also pass over the golden opportunity AMD have now to give Intel a battering.
Ryzen was announced in December 2016 and the 7 models released in March, with 5, 3 and Threadripper released each month thereafter.
Ryzen 2 was announced in February 2018 and pretty much dropped everything in April with Threadripper in August.
So if Ryzen 3 is announced in January, history would suggest that model 7 and possibly model 5 would be coming around March or April, a month later for the 3s and another month or 2 after that for the beastly model 9 (these halo parts will need some serious binning time I reckon). Threadripper in September? That gives plenty of time to get EPYC Rome going before AMD start chopping it down for Threadripper.
APUs will probably coincide with Navi's release - maybe July or August if announced at CES, like Vega was (announced January, released August, available to buy last week
).The announcement of 500 series AM4 boards will also give a strong indication of when Ryzen 3 will be released, given it's suggested the 16 core 9 models will need the new boards.
But AMD already have pretty much all of TSMC's 7nm capacity, don't they? Wasn't there an announcement that phone manufacturers were seriously scaling back their orders in the face of declining demand? All the more for AMD then. I don't think you can get more capacity than all capacity
https://www.techpowerup.com/250183/amd-3rd-generation-ryzen-confirmed-for-computex-2019
So June 2019 for CPU's
X570 motherboards 'could' release earlier than that!
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leake...-Intel-9th-Gen-Core-KF-variants.373411.0.html
So June 2019 for CPU's
X570 motherboards 'could' release earlier than that!
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leake...-Intel-9th-Gen-Core-KF-variants.373411.0.html
June 2019 was always the most likely date then the "1H 2019" date was leaked. A shame but it would tie in to the 10th anniversary of my current machine.
The other option I suppose is that at least some of the Ryzen 3 line-up is launched in March/April as before but the new motherboards featuring PCIe 4.0 don't come out until later. It does seem odd that they would announce Ryzen 3 in January and then wait 5-6 months before actually launching it.
And on a related tangent, 9000 series CPUs WITHOUT the iGPU? That'll be interesting...
Got to keep the shareholders happy, talking it up over CES will do just that!
Epyc comes first, and that'll give them time to bin higher clocking dies for the desktop parts.
Sounds odd doesn't it, but they want the best power efficient dies for Epyc, not leaky higher clocking parts.
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June would be late if you ask me. Historically Ryzen (last two years) has launched on almost the same day April 19th.
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Will WTO rules have any impact on the the prices of these new CPUs in the event of a hard exit? Also what happens if the UK is left in limbo and has to wait years to rejoin the WTO in the event of a hard brexit?
I don't think it will be that long, but i would guess probably mid / late Q2 launch (Computex) with large scale retail availability by early Q3.
I'm guessing that we will get a teaser at CES with a 3700x running Cinebench to get the hype train stoked
But AMD already have pretty much all of TSMC's 7nm capacity, don't they? Wasn't there an announcement that phone manufacturers were seriously scaling back their orders in the face of declining demand? All the more for AMD then. I don't think you can get more capacity than all capacity
Apple were scaling back orders for the current iPhone that are using 7nm chips I'm not sure about other manufacturers but smartphone sales are still predicted to increase world wide. However, if AMD want to hit a late Q2 launch window they will be competing with Apple for fab space for their iPhone Xi (or what ever they call it) for September. Even if demand is down for them this year is doesn't mean it will also be with the next iPhone. It may even increase demand as people hold back on upgrading this year and wait for next year.
It also gives Intel a huge amount of time to prepare their next release though. If Ryzen really doesn't come out until June, it'll only have a 3-4 month head start on Intel's 10nm chips (assuming they don't get delayed yet again).
Probably best not to go there, but I highly doubt it will have any positive effect on the price.
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I need to know if I should upgrade on the 28TH of march or not, also memory could become extortionately expensive after that date also.
2950x or 3850x after 29TH of march: a 2950x could be far far higher than it is now and a 3850x would cost considerable more than a 2950x is now.
I know some people only like to think of immigrants, but my upgrades are far far more important than who is living in our country, and i do not want to take a massive financial hit because of peoples concerns about immigrants.
So.... politics aside....
The date for brexit is known. So won't come as a surprise. So dont expect the pound to just suddenly collapse on the day of brexit. It may well fall up until that point, but it's not going to drop on the date.
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I asking with regards to Tariffs.....
AMD's products are nothing to do with the EU, If a Hard Brexit your BMW and your French wine may become more expensive but aside from currency conversion your CPU's and GPU are unaffected.
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Thats completely incorrect, or current tariffs arrangements with the rest of world are all currently via the EU (common market).. They all become void on a hard exit.
WTO rules would be a fallback anyway, the UK will be able to sort out new trade deals and what those tariffs would be, and probably get sorted a lot faster without the oversight of the EU. I highly doubt it'll be apocalyptically bad, it'll be the exchange rates that'll sting more in the short term.
You people need to stop with this hyperbolic dooms day crying, there are not going to be tariffs added on US products because we are not in the EU/
Actually the EU already puts 15% tariffs on a lot of US products, the US wants its own trade deal with us, the EU also dictate our tax rules, that's another 20%.
Why do you think CPU's / GPU are so expensive compared with the US?
Actually the EU already puts 15% tariffs on a lot of US products, the US wants its own trade deal with us, the EU also dictate our tax rules, that's another 20%.
Why do you think CPU's / GPU are so expensive compared with the US?
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Not a chance, worst case scenario we will see RyZen 9 16 core 32 thread in March / April
the Rest of the line up RyZen 7/5 and 3 will be June / July, they may take a little longer to produce as they will be built from the faulty silicon that doesnt meet RyZen 9 standards, having to fuse off cores etc.
They did the same with the first edition chips, we got RyZen 7 1800X / 1700X & 1700 first then 2 months later got the rest.