AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Fire_fly]

Given that all eye will be on the them, AMD would be foolish not to do an announcement / teaser to get the hype train well stoked.

I would guess at a some details on the R5 3600x and R7 3700x respectively with probably a Cinebench or Blender. There was a contest a few weeks back to win one of those CPUs by guessing its Cinebench score. They will also give an approximate release window, probably Q2.

After that I would expect a steady stream of 'leaks', showing the process in the best possible light, straight form AMD's PR department until the release at COMPUTEX in late May.

 

[4K8KW10]

Given that all eye will be on the them, AMD would be foolish not to do an announcement / teaser to get the hype train well stoked.

I would guess at a some details on the R5 3600x and R7 3700x respectively with probably a Cinebench or Blender. There was a contest a few weeks back to win one of those CPUs by guessing its Cinebench score. They will also give an approximate release window, probably Q2.

After that I would expect a steady stream of 'leaks', showing the process in the best possible light, straight form AMD's PR department until the release at COMPUTEX in late May.

Actually, I expect paper launch and pre-orders to be up and well by the end of January/February
Computex may include more SKUs...

 

[humbug]

EPYC 2 was already launched, it can only be consumer Zen 2.

 

[Fire_fly]

Actually, I expect paper launch and pre-orders to be up and well by the end of January/February
Computex may include more SKUs...

I wouldn't be surprised if pre-orders pop up from Feb onward, it goes hand in hand with the hype train.

I don't see them them doing a launch, even a paper one, as people will be waiting a long time until COMPUTEX. It just seems too long to keep people waiting unless AMD are possibly planning to launch some SKUs earlier, but then again the 5xx series motherboards are not due out until COMUTEX so there will not be any new motherboards to put them in.

 

[LePhuronn]

CES will announce Ryzen 3000, possibly with a couple of benches, and also give a big tease for Navi. The more exciting Ryzen 3000 SKUs will then officially launch in April, leading nicely into Computex at the end of May which will see the official Navi announcement, and possibly Threadripper 3000. Navi then goes on sale end of August.

Let's see just how wildly off the mark I am

 

[Jokester]

I’m guessing Zen2 will slot straight into X470 boards but will there also be any new chipset released or no rumours on that side of things?

 

[humbug]

I’m guessing Zen2 will slot straight into X470 boards but will there also be any new chipset released or no rumours on that side of things?

My guess it will be the same as X370 vs X470, the new CPU will drop into older board'(s) but the newer ones may be more refined, updated, newer features, PCIe 4? so its simply a choice rather than a need of old vs new.

 

[Minstadave]

I’m guessing Zen2 will slot straight into X470 boards but will there also be any new chipset released or no rumours on that side of things?

PCIE 4 will prob need a new chipset I’d have thought.

 

[humbug]

PCIE 4 will prob need a new chipset I’d have thought.

The main PCIe lanes are actually in the CPU, 28 i think in Zen 1

Edit its 32 with 4 given over to the Chipset.

 

[Fire_fly]

I’m guessing Zen2 will slot straight into X470 boards but will there also be any new chipset released or no rumours on that side of things?

There was a leaked slide from Gigabyte suggesting the launch of 500 series boards at COMPUTEX.

As far as I know there has been no AGESA micro code updates for an any new Zen 2 CPU on 300 or 400 series chipsets yet either. But i wouldn't expect anything until about 2 - 3 month before launch.

 

[Minstadave]

The main PCIe lanes are actually in the CPU, 28 i think in Zen 1

Edit its 32 with 4 given over to the Chipset.

The PCI-E lanes are in the CPU but you still need the traces to be upto spec on the motherboard to allow data transfer at that bandwidth so it’s not a given older boards will work.

 

[Journey]

The PCI-E lanes are in the CPU but you still need the traces to be upto spec on the motherboard to allow data transfer at that bandwidth so it’s not a given older boards will work.

Older boards will not work, as you have already said. It is an end to end solution and to get the benefit from PCI-E 4.0 you will need the physical board to be up to the task as well as the BIOS etc.

Just to clarify for the confusion above, AM4 offers 20 PCI-E lanes on the CPU, split into a 16x/4x config, or a 8x/8x/4x with the 4 remaining lanes available to the chipset which can then be split off in to PCI-E 2.0 etc, M.2, USB etc.

 

[KentMan]

From the Adored leak it seems that the X570 boards would be required for the highest end Ryzen CPUs.

What did Brian Krazanich talk about last year on the Intel Keynote? Did they announce anything?

And as for @4K8KW10 no I don't want AMD to hold back Zen2, if you had bothered to engage your brain and read my post you would have seen I'm eagerly waiting on Zen2 myself.

I just think we won't see any solid Info at CES, I think Computex is more likely, however I'm happy to be surprised if AMD do show off some high end consumer CPU and GPUs

 

[LePhuronn]

I just think we won't see any solid Info at CES, I think Computex is more likely, however I'm happy to be surprised if AMD do show off some high end consumer CPU and GPUs

So by extension you're not expecting Ryzen 3000 CPUs to be available until at least end of June? And completely miss capitalising on Intel's current failings?

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

So by extension you're not expecting Ryzen 3000 CPUs to be available until at least end of June? And completely miss capitalising on Intel's current failings?

AMD should be getting them out ASAP, i guess they will then catch up to Intel at least in gaming performance. I wonder how their 10nm will be.

 

[4K8KW10]

And as for @4K8KW10 no I don't want AMD to hold back Zen2, if you had bothered to engage your brain and read my post you would have seen I'm eagerly waiting on Zen2 myself.

The original Zen launch proves that you are wrong and that your lols are trolling.

 

[LePhuronn]

AMD should be getting them out ASAP...

Which is why launching at Computex doesn't make sense - holding off until half way through the year before releasing the new CPUs? Announcing Navi at the same time? That's too much information overload and also all the fence sitters will have bought 9th rehash Sandy Bridge+++++++++++++ by then because they're sick of waiting.

...i guess they will then catch up to Intel at least in gaming performance.

Unless you're gaming at 1080p and a bazillion FPS, Zen already has caught up in gaming performance, what's a couple of frames?

I wonder how their 10nm will be.

I guess we'll find out in 2027 when Intel get their act together.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

seeing some real salty intel fanboys on this page lmao, cant wait for the 3000 series to send them into a coma

 

[KentMan]

Hang on guys, I'm not trolling or an Intel Fanboy either. I own a 1700 with a Vega 64, and will be upgrading to 3700x and x570 etc, I'm as excited as the next AMD fan for what's coming.im just trying to temper my expectations is all.

I hope they do announce Zen2 and Navi high end or some Vega2 monster at CES I really do, but at the same time I'm trying to keep optomistic about it, incase they don't.

I have my £2.5k upgrade budget sat right here waiting, my old PC is going to my kids to play on.

I'm hoping for a 4.7ghz 3700x as that should be enough to take the fight to Intel, and some GPU on 7nm as fast as a 1080ti which is plenty fast enough for me, these are all low expectations I must add, as many people expect more than this.

Last thing I'm hoping is sane pricing like AMD has been doing.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

seeing some real salty intel fanboys on this page lmao, cant wait for the 3000 series to send them into a coma

Or we could try discussing it like normal adults, without the accusations of being "fanboys" and nonsense trash talk like this.