AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Scramz]

So the 3800X will beat the 9700k by miles in gaming?

I have my 9700K at 5.2GHz all cores when gaming.

I fancy a change

No one said it will beat it, let alone by miles. But if the 3600 is in and round then there is a good chance the 3800X is there and about. We will find out soon enough.

If you are on a 9700K just for gaming then there is no reason to move to a Zen 2 tbh.

 

[DragonQ]

So the 3800X will beat the 9700k by miles in gaming?

I have my 9700K at 5.2GHz all cores when gaming.

I fancy a change

If you're the kind of person who would switch from an i7-9700K to another 8 core chip for gaming I'm not sure an answer either way will sway you. I highly doubt it'll "beat it by miles".

 

[Deleted User 456458]

(gaming) If both were free which would you go for:

Ryzen 3900x + X570 Gigabyte Aorus Master + 64GB Ram or
9900K + Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Master + 64GB Ram

If you plan to upgrade in a couple of years again, the 9900k at 5ghz will likely be faster in games for the next couple of years.

If you plan to keep the CPU/mobo/RAM for 5+ years, the 3900x will pull ahead because game engines will be more multi core focused due to next generation of consoles.

 

[ltron]

If you plan to upgrade in a couple of years again, the 9900k at 5ghz will likely be faster in games for the next couple of years.

If you plan to keep the CPU/mobo/RAM for 5+ years, the 3900x will pull ahead because game engines will be more multi core focused due to next generation of consoles.

We don't know that yet, wait for reviews on the 7th.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

We don't know that yet, wait for reviews on the 7th.

I'd be shocked if an all core 5ghz 9900k goes down to an OC'd 3900x in gaming.

 

[ltron]

I'd be shocked if an all core 5ghz 9900k goes down to an OC'd 3900x in gaming.

We'll see what happens with fast RAM when BIOS bugs are not skewing performance (leaked review). The 3900X has 70MB of cache which may help too.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

(gaming) If both were free which would you go for:

Ryzen 3900x + X570 Gigabyte Aorus Master + 64GB Ram or
9900K + Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Master + 64GB Ram

X570 . but then cry when when intel rolls out 10nm z490 and ryzne zen4 with ddr5 x770 . as is always the case with hardward , but now things get tricky since we have competition. Market is going to heat up fast !

 

[Zeed]

8700k @ 5ghz is about 512 single score. This 3600 @ 4.2Ghz seems bit of a tank with excellent IPC, if Zen 2 could do 5Ghz, would trash everything single core related.

The ******** 'WHAT IF' We dont live in make believe reality are we ?? what IF 9900k could Hit 6ghz ?? What IF Zen3 will hit 7ghz ??

 

[Zeed]

We'll see what happens with fast RAM when BIOS bugs are not skewing performance (leaked review). The 3900X has 70MB of cache which may help too.

But 9900k 5ghz is not its OC limit and who know what Zen2 is OC limit hmm

 

[Zeed]

Only cares about gaming, selects 64GB RAM. Sounds about right

3900X all day long, even on the scant information AMD have put out

Spoiler

If ya dont care about Gaming You should be ion Threadripper not Ryzen. Could have had 16 cores and 128gb of ram years ago. With quad memory channel.

 

[humbug]

But 9900k 5ghz is not its OC limit and who know what Zen2 is OC limit hmm

And its already running at 4.7Ghz all core out of the box, 5Ghz ST, they just don't have a lot of headroom, like Zen and Zen+ to be fair.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

But 9900k 5ghz is not its OC limit and who know what Zen2 is OC limit hmm

5ghz all core with no AVX offset is pretty top of the chart for a 9900k at 24/7 use.

 

[Scramz]

The ******** 'WHAT IF' We dont live in make believe reality are we ?? what IF 9900k could Hit 6ghz ?? What IF Zen3 will hit 7ghz ??

You get up on the wrong side of the bed?

We know the performance of the 9900K and it's overclocking ability.

We are still waiting for the remaining higher end zen 2 SKUs to be reviewed. With a stock boost up to 4.7Ghz there is a chance they could overclock an additional 2-300Mhz.

What's wrong with you Maybe you need to chill mate.

 

[humbug]

The 3600 boosts to 4.2Ghz

What's left to review

3600X 4.4Ghz
3700X 4.4Ghz
3800X 4.5Ghz
3900X 4.6Ghz
3950X 4.7Ghz

Looking at those reviews the 3700X will match the 9900K

 

[Ree]

Personally i'd be looking at the Crucial Ballistix LT kits, ~75 for 16GB the 3000 C15 and ~85 for the 3200 C16, they both use Micron-E, XMP works out the box on Ryzen, and they overclock to 3600+ easy.

was just having a little read about this stuff.. think i've found a winner and saved a few quid in the process thanks.

 

[DragonQ]

The other bonus of the Ballistix LT kits is the low profile. Even my ancient NH-U12P cooler has enough clearance for them.

 

[Ree]

The other bonus of the Ballistix LT kits is the low profile. Even my ancient NH-U12P cooler has enough clearance for them.

i have a dark rock pro 4 and my current ram fits under it just by the skin of its teeth with the fan on the highest fin on the heatsink so that's welcomed news also. gonna order it now.

 

[Stephanie Peterson]

The 3700/3800 are going to be faster processors than the 9900k overall once they are released, OC or not.

 

[Dimi]

Ballistic LT memory kits any good then? I've got a MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC on the way and looking at their compatibility list it's not listed. Will this be an issue with the new CPU's, I'm probably going to look at getting a 3600 or the 3700X.

 

[LePhuronn]

I've got a MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC on the way and looking at their compatibility list it's not listed

Compatibility lists are a crock these days. DDR4 is a standard, CPUs that use DDR4 have to meet that standard, motherboard design has to meet that standard. Ergo, if you have a DDR4 CPU then you have a DDR4 motherboard and all DDR4 is compatible.

The nuances come down to the architecture of the CPU, quality of the memory controller of the CPU and the motherboard's memory configuration. These factors influence how far the RAM can be pushed to extract the most performance beyond the baseline standard.