AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[benjii]

Just this, take it with a pinch of salt.



https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-3600-benchmark-beats-core-i9-9900k,news-61052.html

Advice noted. Cheers for the info!

 

[Destination]

Thank you, i understand now.

 

[Stephanie Peterson]

That looks crap

My kind of board, i dont care if its cat poo brown with orange highlights as long as it performs.
Although ... i might step up to the next one posted

 

[Nerusy]

The £200 board above has 10 + 2 VRMs and up rated ALC887 Audio.

You don't need to spend £700 on a board to get a good one.

Board vendors have said they are already selling more 400 series boards than they are Intel and I think they have very high expectations from Ryzen 3000 so all the "premium" marketing BS is moving to where they think the bulk of sales are going to come from, they are predicting a shift from Intel to AMD.

Boards over £300 are going to be full of flimflam marketing and little more, don't buy them, don't justify the pricing.

Thank you, i understand now.

Good to hear, thanks for clearing it up. Just read a lot of complains about supposedly bad vrams on these mobos, probably people being over critical or talking about extreme overclocking.

 

[humbug]

Good to hear, thanks for clearing it up. Just read a lot of complains about supposedly bad vrams on these mobos, probably people being over critical or talking about extreme overclocking.

Yeah i don't know where that would come from, the VRMs on the Gaming X are very good, plenty for the 3950X, even that horrid looking ASUS board has 8+2 Phase VRMs, those costing £300 have 12+2, the really expensive ones have 16+2 which is complete overkill.

Anyway.... Steve is such a tease.

 

[Captain]

They go up for sale next Sunday.
I can only assume you're going to be disappointed tomorrow.

I thought it was just ocuk not doing pre orders?

It's not really a pre order is it, ordering Sunday for delivery Monday.

 

[Martini1991]

I thought it was just ocuk not doing pre orders?

It's not really a pre order is it, ordering Sunday for delivery Monday.

I've seen nothing official to suggest anyone's going live with pre-orders tomorrow.
Your second part makes no sense.

The planned release date is the 7th which is a Sunday, as a hard launch.
Delivery won't be Monday as there's no collections Sunday.
Some people are saying there's pre-orders going live tomorrow.

 

[Destination]

Thank you, i understand now.

 

[esoteric]

I dropped out of this thread 300 pages and have been ghosting it since. I'm seeing VRAM come up quite a few times as an important factor, what's going on?

 

[Ross Thomson]

Delivery won't be Monday as there's no collections Sunday.

depends where you buy it from

 

[Martini1991]

depends where you buy it from

There's maybe two places that spring to mind.
But I was generalising.

 

[Martini1991]

I dropped out of this thread 300 pages and have been ghosting it since. I'm seeing VRAM come up quite a few times as an important factor, what's going on?

VRM.

Voltage stability etc

 

[andy_mk3]

I dropped out of this thread 300 pages and have been ghosting it since. I'm seeing VRAM come up quite a few times as an important factor, what's going on?

I guess you mean VRMs nor VRAM VRMs are what supply power to the CPU, they convert 12v to the ~1.4V the CPU requires. But 1.4v @ 100w+ means there are a lot of amps, so better VRMs and more of them spread the load and give you a better supply for your CPU, especially more important on the higher end CPUs.

 

[esoteric]

Ahh damn, that glance reading making me see VRAM

It's something I've never looked at what picking up a mobo. The answer to this question is probably "the spec list", but where do you see about the VRM.

 

[Captain]

I've seen nothing official to suggest anyone's going live with pre-orders tomorrow.
Your second part makes no sense.

The planned release date is the 7th which is a Sunday, as a hard launch.
Delivery won't be Monday as there's no collections Sunday.
Some people are saying there's pre-orders going live tomorrow.

I'm sure I read pre orders go live on the 1st and delivery Monday the 8th, unless I've been dreaming

 

[nitram100]

Just bought a tomahawk b450 , reckon this will be ok for a mild OC on 3700x ?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Just bought a tomahawk b450 , reckon this will be ok for a mild OC on 3700x ?

It might be as the B450 Mortar was OK with a mildly overclocked Ryzen 7 2700, but best to see what reviews show.

 

[Mercutio]

I've seen nothing official to suggest anyone's going live with pre-orders tomorrow.
Your second part makes no sense.

The planned release date is the 7th which is a Sunday, as a hard launch.
Delivery won't be Monday as there's no collections Sunday.
Some people are saying there's pre-orders going live tomorrow.

it's rather odd. I definitely picked it up from somewhere. There's a bunch of independent forums/etc saying the same and 1 site. But otherwise... yeah, no hint of it as a thing that's happening.

 

[hyperseven]

Thought Gibbo already said no pre-orders

Ryzen 3 pricing from OCUK

 

[Murphy]

I guess you mean VRMs nor VRAM VRMs are what supply power to the CPU, they convert 12v to the ~1.4V the CPU requires. But 1.4v @ 100w+ means there are a lot of amps, so better VRMs and more of them spread the load and give you a better supply for your CPU, especially more important on the higher end CPUs.

Sort of, it's the MOSFETs that supply the power and the control circuitry regulates how many amps they output at a given time, collectively they makeup what we call the VRMs, better VRM circuitry supply cleaner power and are better at regulating shifts in amperage (less under/over shoot, quicker response, more accurate) along with less power being converted into heat, at least that's my understanding.

Not that any of that changes your conclusion that better VRMs mean better supply of power to the CPU.