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Don't we go through all this at every launch though?? We know roughly what the RRP is going to be,so if companies try to push pricing significantly higher,then its best to hold off until pricing settles down. If people complain and then pay the extra then welcome to the new normal price! :P
 
robfosters said:
You’re assuming they won’t be gouging.
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and if they are you can shop elsewhere. its not exactly rocket science. if they do stick on a tenner on all ryzen 3000's then i can see them losing out on sales as if everyone has stock people will just shop elsewhere.
 
robfosters said:
Why shouldn’t it matter?
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For this reason:

GAC said:
and if they are you can shop elsewhere. its not exactly rocket science. if they do stick on a tenner on all ryzen 3000's then i can see them losing out on sales as if everyone has stock people will just shop elsewhere.
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Martini1991 said:
Lol you must hate consumer rights too
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No, I like them, but I'm also a capitalist and supporter of the free market.
 
Consumer and anti-cartel laws are more a socialist(?) mantra though. If not and if it was a true free market,anything would go and Intel bribing Dell,etc to not stock AMD CPUs would be perfectly legal.

Martini1991 said:
Gouging isn't necessary.
I can't believe a consumer would openly support it lol.
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People are more worried about companies nowadays you see - enthusiasts and overclocking started from people trying to save money, and not give two hoots about "think of the poor company" as overclocking and modding cheaper CPUs,etc technically meant companies got less money. People replaced purchases of more expensive CPUs with cheaper overclocked ones.
 
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As people are all about the poor companies and it was all about poor AMD but now they're just another evil mean Intel :D Can you all now go rally behind VIA as they're now a poor company and they need the money. :mad: ;)
 
G J said:
As people are all about the poor companies and it was all about poor AMD but now they're just another evil mean Intel :D Can you all now go rally behind VIA as they're now a poor company and they need the money. :mad: ;)
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i honestly feel a few in this thread are just looking for stuff to moan at, hence you have a couple of posters who seem to swing from being pro amd one day then full on intel nutball the next.
 
Martini1991 said:
You've obviously never actually seen a CPU launch before. You're completely wrong.
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Clearly forgotten that ocuk opened all their boxed 8700k - binned them - sold them at massively inflated prices for the first couple of weeks.

And with the 9900k, was first listed at £550, taken down and relisted for £600...of course it was then cheaper to get them from the USA rainforest...but kinda left a sour taste...
 
I live 10 minutes away from OcUK.. its tempting to show up on that Monday morning :D

From a Youtube video i saw recently, some guy said people only come to Stoke on Trent to die so stock should be plentyful :p

Personally i will wait for reviews etc :)
 
MyBrains said:
I thought they binned the OEM chips and didnt touch the Retail boxed chips?
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there were no OEM chips at the 8700k's launch and only a limited number of boxed 8700k cpus.
OCUK in true etailer gouge fashion, opened all their boxed stock...binned them and then resold them as binned CPUs with a massively inflated price tag.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/8700k-pre-binned-question.18795325/

post #16 from Gibbo:
As Intel had next to nothing stock wise, infact I think OcUK was the ONLY retailer in the UK with i7-8700K and i5-8600K in stock. I made the decision to have 8 Pack bin all the 8700K stock for several reasons:
- Only reseller in the world with binned Coffee Lake at launch and in stock
- Of course on binned processors we make more money as can be seen, though of course the whole de-lidding and binning procedure is very time consuming, so its not a free service nor one we intend on offering cheap, its a very specialised service and is why so few companies offer it worldwide and its a massive success for us and continues to grow.
- If our regular 8700K SKU had showed in stock, the website would have failed to update quick enough resulting in 200-300 orders for a product we only had 30 off, as such to show pre-order with a delivery end of month eases customer expectation but at the same time they can still get one without paying over the odds if they are happy to wait, no competitors had stock as such it made sense.


All in all the result is a success for us, all the binned stock has sold out, we've pre-sold 100's of regular processors and those ordering know not to expect them until a few weeks so no disgruntle customers tomorrow when their delivery does not arrive as they know there was never any stock of regular 8700K.
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