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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

I'm mostly interested in what the reviews posted on websites are saying about the 7700X performance in games, including Cyberpunk 2077.

I'm not interested in casting aspersions as you appear to be, why would I care about that?
 
Bencher said:
He is indeed gpu bottlenecked, but fun fact is he used different settings between the 7700x and the 12900k to pretend like 12900k does worse. Who he is trying to fool, i dont know. Why he is doing it, dont know either. But amd fans... what can you do
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Bencher said:
You dont care that actual users in here are faking benchmarks to promote one cpu over another?
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Wow your a weird one
 
gerardfraser said:
Wow your a weird one
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Im sorry but not only your benchmarks were fishy as hell, you didn't even share your settings so we could reproduce them. And then you went ballistic defensive about it. If that's not suspicious as ***fully star out swearing*** i don't know what is.

It is obvious that you were gpu bound on both runs, but on the 12900k you used higher settings or you power limited your GPU to get that score. There is literally no other way to get 90 fps. Even at MAX settings 1080p you'd get around 110.

So please, share with us your methodology. It would take you 5 seconds.
LtMatt said:
Welcome to our resident fans of CPU vendor B. :cry:
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Ah really? So you think his numbers were legit? If he had the 7700x scoring 30 fps behind 12900k, wouldnt you be asking questions? Don't pretend im biased when you are the ones that are. That bench was outrageously fake and instead of calling him on it you were stroking your egos. GJ
 
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Legion said:
It's like 4k8k all over again on a new acc with a new agenda, unrelenting..............
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Do i need to pretend like his benchmark wasn't as fake as it gets to not have an agenda?

Im sorry but you guys are unbelievable. I'd do the same if someone posted a 7950x scoring 20k cbr23 score. It has nothing to do with intel or amd, fake benchmarks should be called out no matter where they come from, no? Is it fine for you as long as amd wins in these fake numbers?
 
chroniclard said:
Doesn't seem likely a random forum member is deliberately faking benchmarks. :cry:
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Of course it could just be a mistake, but his attitude after being asked questions about that bench seemed very fishy don't you think.

We know that the 3090 maxed out at 1080p can get around 110 fps, and we know the 12900k can get around 150 fps . So the only way for him to score that low is to underclock his card in the 12900k run. There is literally no other explanation for his results.

Funnily enough, he was using a 5.3 ghz all core / 4 ghz E core overclocked to within an inch of his life 12900k, and still I beat him by over 50% at stock...don't you think it's fishy?


EG1. Nvm, I figured it out. He is using max settings on both runs, he changed DLSS from Auto to Quality (that's why it says custom settings), but he is using a 3090 on the 7700x run and a 3080 in the 12900k run. Then he pretends it's the same card and the difference is due to the CPU being the limit. Check around on youtube, 96 fps is the score of the 3080
 
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You can just look at the 12900k vs 12900k results to see he's running into a GPU bottleneck. Running Gear 2 with DDR4 and a frequency drop across the board yet the numbers are the same. You don't need to be hardcore into PC's to figure out that's not a good way to show scaling on the CPU/Mem side of things. I assume/hope in some content he produced he's trying to demonstrate what a GPU bottleneck looks like?

That's why I asked him to run the low preset with DLSS off so you're using repeatable setting with a defined preset and doing your best to reduce the bottleneck.
 
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Robert896r1 said:
You can just look at the 12900k vs 12900k results to see he's running into a GPU bottleneck. Running Gear 2 with DDR4 and a frequency drop across the board yet the numbers are the same. You don't need to be hardcore into PC's to figure out that's not a good way to show scaling on the CPU/Mem side of things. I assume/hope in some content he produced he's trying to demonstrate what a GPU bottleneck looks like?

That's why I asked him to run the low preset with DLSS off so you're using repeatable setting with a defined preset and doing your best to reduce the bottleneck.
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Yeah but.. Why would he use a different gpu between 7700x and the 12900k and then act like its the same... It doesnt make sense to me

Funny though, he called you out for being an overclocker, and theh he posted a 5.3 ghz all core 12900k
 
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Bencher said:
Of course it could just be a mistake, but his attitude after being asked questions about that bench seemed very fishy don't you think.

We know that the 3090 maxed out at 1080p can get around 110 fps, and we know the 12900k can get around 150 fps . So the only way for him to score that low is to underclock his card in the 12900k run. There is literally no other explanation for his results.

Funnily enough, he was using a 5.3 ghz all core / 4 ghz E core overclocked to within an inch of his life 12900k, and still I beat him by over 50% at stock...don't you think it's fishy?


EG1. Nvm, I figured it out. He is using max settings on both runs, he changed DLSS from Auto to Quality (that's why it says custom settings), but he is using a 3090 on the 7700x run and a 3080 in the 12900k run. Then he pretends it's the same card and the difference is due to the CPU being the limit. Check around on youtube, 96 fps is the score of the 3080
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Fantastic now that’s over with we can all move on and talk about AM5 right?……right?
 
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