Caporegime
The Hero, while crazy money, is an excellent board it’s been rock solid stable (as has AM5) since platform launch for me.
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Underboss
and i crashed back to desktop
20 mins of Project cars 2
20 mins of Project cars 2
Essentially that’s what I did. I started out with a decent priced X670-E Strix F, then a Gene then thought why am I messing around? Just get the Hero, it’s the one I wanted in the first place.
Still think it should have come with a backplate like the z790 hero though. None of the AM5 boards really impressed me aesthetically, all seem a step behind their Intel equivalents.
But so far zero problems with my hero. Very solid!
The B650E-E has been rock solid so far but its missing some of the nice things that you don’t know you need until you need them.
Power button on the MB, when I was testing out of case I had to short the pins to turn the PC on.
Proper Flash Back and Clear CMOS buttons, the ones on the B650 are an insult to buttons and the LED is under the IO shield next to more flashing LED’s so you cannot see it, press the button, wait 10m, did it do anything? NO, WTF?
Power button on the MB, when I was testing out of case I had to short the pins to turn the PC on.
Proper Flash Back and Clear CMOS buttons, the ones on the B650 are an insult to buttons and the LED is under the IO shield next to more flashing LED’s so you cannot see it, press the button, wait 10m, did it do anything? NO, WTF?
B650E-E should 100% have a power button.
This is why I ended up getting a Hero. To be honest, I don’t need a Hero. But I wanted a load of features like power button, code numbers, I wanted to use as many NVME as possible without diluting the main PCIE slot. I looked at pretty much EVERY board spent weeks reading every review.
Almost every board has some kind of compromise or weird decision. There were plenty of great looking boards but they didn’t have a single feature and I would think WTF why did they not put that on there.
This is why I ended up getting a Hero. To be honest, I don’t need a Hero. But I wanted a load of features like power button, code numbers, I wanted to use as many NVME as possible without diluting the main PCIE slot. I looked at pretty much EVERY board spent weeks reading every review.
Almost every board has some kind of compromise or weird decision. There were plenty of great looking boards but they didn’t have a single feature and I would think WTF why did they not put that on there.
Underboss
i really need another AM5 "brand" board to try out my CPU
or another CPU...
i think ill send OcUK an email and see what they say
im quite fed up now and im tempted to start all over again :/
or another CPU...
i think ill send OcUK an email and see what they say
im quite fed up now and im tempted to start all over again :/
Honestly not sure how you’ve put up with it this long. It’s ridiculous to have so many instability issues, something is clearly wrong.
I guess I lucked out with the Asrock B650 PG lightning when I brought it last year. VRM temps maxing at around 70c with a 16 core CPU according to reviewers. This is what Techspot's comprehensive B650 VRM article says "If you're after an ATX board, the Asrock PG Lightning is a nice option, as are the slightly more expensive MSI Pro B650-P WiFi and Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX boards".
Link: https://www.techspot.com/review/2633-amd-b650-motherboards/
Some CPU thermal throttling by default with the cheaper and more compact PG Riptide, at least at default settings. Maybe this helps to maximise motherboard lifespan?
They reported similar stability problems (with DDR5 running @6000MT/s) when using the older BIOS versions for the PG Lightning to the initial problems I noticed - these issues disappeared after I updated to the (Beta) BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.4 in December.
It's a really useful article, I just wish this kind of detailed info was available on major product launches.
It's not full of praise for cheaper Asus B650 motherboards "The only affordable B650 motherboards we would avoid, now and in the future regardless of BIOS updates, are all three Asus models -- they're just not very good". I think what put me off these boards was the lack of info regarding the VRM features...
If buying a board now, I'd buy a B650 Pro RS as it's very similar to the B650 lightning, but runs cooler and cost a similar amount as prices have come down.
One thing I think the article glosses over a bit, is PCIe5 support for an NVME drive - some of the cheaper boards they recommend offer just PCIe4 for storage, which may be more than enough for now? But doesn't cost much more to get support for the latest standard...
Link: https://www.techspot.com/review/2633-amd-b650-motherboards/
Some CPU thermal throttling by default with the cheaper and more compact PG Riptide, at least at default settings. Maybe this helps to maximise motherboard lifespan?
They reported similar stability problems (with DDR5 running @6000MT/s) when using the older BIOS versions for the PG Lightning to the initial problems I noticed - these issues disappeared after I updated to the (Beta) BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.4 in December.
It's a really useful article, I just wish this kind of detailed info was available on major product launches.
It's not full of praise for cheaper Asus B650 motherboards "The only affordable B650 motherboards we would avoid, now and in the future regardless of BIOS updates, are all three Asus models -- they're just not very good". I think what put me off these boards was the lack of info regarding the VRM features...
If buying a board now, I'd buy a B650 Pro RS as it's very similar to the B650 lightning, but runs cooler and cost a similar amount as prices have come down.
One thing I think the article glosses over a bit, is PCIe5 support for an NVME drive - some of the cheaper boards they recommend offer just PCIe4 for storage, which may be more than enough for now? But doesn't cost much more to get support for the latest standard...
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Associate
hopefully ASUS will release new bios soon then
still stuck on 2022 one
desperate to get mine stable
Yeah, no bios update either for myself. The last bios update they did for my ASUS board was November. I have had two ASUS boards since Ryzen and both been a few issues vs what I usually go for MSI.
Underboss
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Underboss
Underboss
Now that a new chipset and bios is available
I'm going to try another format tomorrow
In order. This is right ?
Windows 10, 64
Chipset driver
All other asus drivers , except AMD Graphics drivers
Update windows
Keep pressing update until no other updates available
Update GPU driver (nvidia)
Don't install AMD Graphics drivers
I'm going to try another format tomorrow
In order. This is right ?
Windows 10, 64
Chipset driver
All other asus drivers , except AMD Graphics drivers
Update windows
Keep pressing update until no other updates available
Update GPU driver (nvidia)
Don't install AMD Graphics drivers
I install Windows, run win update, then update drivers.
I probably update the GPU first, then chipset.
Associate
If you don't want amd GPU driver, make sure you disable the amd iGPU in the bios. Until it's disabled windows will keep downloading and installing the amd GPU driver when it does windows updates. I had that issue on a clean install, windows kept installing the amd GPU driver and everytime it did that it windows set the amd iGPU as the primary GPU for the system. Extremely annoying and I could fix it only by disabling the iGPU in the bios.
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This is the board I got because it was one of the cheapest alongside the low tier Asus offerings, but they were disqualified I believe because they didn't have a USB type C for my VR headset. But I've been very happy with it. Seems to have everything I need, fit in my o11D-mini, hasn't failed on a ram overclock yet (not that I've tried that hard but I'm a few good ticks above its rated speed and latency without increasing voltage) and timespy says my 4080 and 7600x are performing far above average, for whatever that's worth.
Associate
New bios seems worse for me on boot up times, but better on PBO. So happy in a way
Underboss
Underboss
So 've not installed the chipset drivers as of yet
But I have installed the GPU driver
The Q LED system fault for VGA has not come on
I'm going to test it like this
If it crashes, the chipset driver will he installed
But I have installed the GPU driver
The Q LED system fault for VGA has not come on
I'm going to test it like this
If it crashes, the chipset driver will he installed
I would use the chipset driver from AMD site as the nonofficial one has caused problems for some.
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