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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

Grim5 said:
Would have been nice if he tested stock rather than fixed clock. Yes 20c off is nice, but I want to know how much extra performance I'll get.

Thanks to other testing he's done on LN2, I know that every 20c off gets an extra 100mhz boost clock when it's stock. Hopefully the clock gains are more impressive with a full overclocking test run to see how high it can go
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Agreed, the 20c seems huge but it'd be nice to see what that means in 'real terms', which for me would be with a decent air cooler and/or AIO with PBO etc rather than just a fixed clock.

But in general it does seem like de-lidding would be a really good idea for most people getting it. I wonder if they'll reduce the thickness in the future, either by reducing z-height (I assume not given the lengths they went to for AM4 compatibility) or whether the 3D Cache setups will inherently use a thinner IHS...
 
wookiee87 said:
managed to pick up a x670 crosshair hero, a competitior has them up to buy £659 though,my wallets gonna be hurting after today
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Indeed, most are pre-order with cheapest being £289.99 for the x670-p. The TUF seems like it will be best balanced from Asus for Price to features.
 
Not up to be an early adopter this time around, awaiting better DDR5 and hopefully less compromises on the motherboard i end up choosing. Have fun though :)
 
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I got burnt wtih early adopting before and with the new 7000 series that might actually be literal so i'll stick with what I got for now, maybe pick up a 2nd hand 5900X in future
 
Dubyah said:
Not up to be an early adopter this time around, awaiting better DDR5 and hopefully less compromises on the motherboard i end up choosing. Have fun though
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Yeah, bad time to upgrade atm. DDR5 pricing and kits are heading in the right direction, but for a noticeable difference over well tuned DDR4 b-die, you need to spend a fair whack.
 
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Grim5 said:
Why?
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Assume it's due to the motherboards costing more than the CPU. Zen 4 is not going to sell at the mid-end until it gets motherboards that cost nearer a £100, but reports are lowest priced board for the B650 is likely to be around £150, Intel boards start at half that and the CPU's are cheaper.
 
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apachegoose said:
Assume it's due to the motherboards costing more than the CPU. Zen 4 is not going to sell at the mid-end until it gets motherboards that cost nearer a £100, but reports are lowest priced board for the B650 is likely to be around £150, Intel boards start at half that and the CPU's are cheaper.
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which boards are £75 ? cheapest is around £101 looking around and are ddr4

but agree better just getting b650 board if want better value
 
uscool said:
which boards are £75 ? cheapest is around £101 looking around and are ddr4

but agree better just getting b650 board if want better value
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Most of the H610's are around £80, but best to skip the H610's, the B660's though occasionally go below £90, with the good ones starting around £100.

The issue with the AMD B650's is that the likely rubbish ones start at around $125 (that price is from AMD themselves), so the ones actually worth using are likely to be nearer $200, so after taxes you are talking £200+ for a normal motherboard.
 
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