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*** AMD "Zen 4" thread (inc AM5/APU discussion) ***

Grim5 said:
Would have been nice if he tested stock rather than fixed clock. Yes 20c off is nice, but I want to know how much extra performance I'll get.

Thanks to other testing he's done on LN2, I know that every 20c off gets an extra 100mhz boost clock when it's stock. Hopefully the clock gains are more impressive with a full overclocking test run to see how high it can go
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Agreed, the 20c seems huge but it'd be nice to see what that means in 'real terms', which for me would be with a decent air cooler and/or AIO with PBO etc rather than just a fixed clock.

But in general it does seem like de-lidding would be a really good idea for most people getting it. I wonder if they'll reduce the thickness in the future, either by reducing z-height (I assume not given the lengths they went to for AM4 compatibility) or whether the 3D Cache setups will inherently use a thinner IHS...
 
Not up to be an early adopter this time around, awaiting better DDR5 and hopefully less compromises on the motherboard i end up choosing. Have fun though :)
 
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Dubyah said:
Not up to be an early adopter this time around, awaiting better DDR5 and hopefully less compromises on the motherboard i end up choosing. Have fun though
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Yeah, bad time to upgrade atm. DDR5 pricing and kits are heading in the right direction, but for a noticeable difference over well tuned DDR4 b-die, you need to spend a fair whack.
 
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Grim5 said:
Why?
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Assume it's due to the motherboards costing more than the CPU. Zen 4 is not going to sell at the mid-end until it gets motherboards that cost nearer a £100, but reports are lowest priced board for the B650 is likely to be around £150, Intel boards start at half that and the CPU's are cheaper.
 
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apachegoose said:
Assume it's due to the motherboards costing more than the CPU. Zen 4 is not going to sell at the mid-end until it gets motherboards that cost nearer a £100, but reports are lowest priced board for the B650 is likely to be around £150, Intel boards start at half that and the CPU's are cheaper.
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which boards are £75 ? cheapest is around £101 looking around and are ddr4

but agree better just getting b650 board if want better value
 
uscool said:
which boards are £75 ? cheapest is around £101 looking around and are ddr4

but agree better just getting b650 board if want better value
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Most of the H610's are around £80, but best to skip the H610's, the B660's though occasionally go below £90, with the good ones starting around £100.

The issue with the AMD B650's is that the likely rubbish ones start at around $125 (that price is from AMD themselves), so the ones actually worth using are likely to be nearer $200, so after taxes you are talking £200+ for a normal motherboard.
 
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