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AMD Zen 5 rumours

Noob question - does windows general performance benefit from increasing cores?

I have a 5950x and I’ve seen people say they are disappointed with windows performance after an ‘upgrade’ to a 5800x3d.
no it doesn't
but neither does Windows care much about 3D cache

so in case of going from 5950X to 5800X3D what actually matters is 10% lower boost clock
 
Thanks both - yeah seems that it would be a bit of a sideways upgrade if anything… mixed results.

I’ve had no issues at all with the 5950x but I like a super silent machine, the cooler the CPU the better. I was thinking that something like the 7800x3d might provide a boost without all the heat… but I didn’t want to feel like windows was chugging or anything.

Again, noob question / comments - I can be humble about that :)
 
Noob question - does windows general performance benefit from increasing cores?

I have a 5950x and I’ve seen people say they are disappointed with windows performance after an ‘upgrade’ to a 5800x3d.
I did that exact shift (16-core went into my VM server) and didn't notice any difference at all in windows.

I guess it depends how many programs they run in the background though. I keep a clean install with little to no unnecessary crap running. More cores would help if you have a lot of that.
 
I did that exact shift (16-core went into my VM server) and didn't notice any difference at all in windows.

I guess it depends how many programs they run in the background though. I keep a clean install with little to no unnecessary crap running. More cores would help if you have a lot of that.

Very interesting - did you see better gaming performance / lower temps with the 5800x3d? If so, at what resolution was this? And gpu? Sorry for so many questions!

I’d be using a 4k display, so probably not a huge amount in it.
 
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Very interesting - did you see better gaming performance / lower temps with the 5800x3d? If so, at what resolution was this? And gpu? Sorry for so many questions!

I’d be using a 4k display, so probably not a huge amount in it.

Honestly not a huge difference in gaming performance that I could notice. However the games I was playing when I had the 5950X in the gaming PC were not very new or particularly strenuous (X-Com 2 WOTC, Frostpunk, Kerbal, Aliens Dark Descent, W40K Mechanicus, W40K Chaos Gate that I can remember). I also find that you only really notice the better performance when you go back to the old thing and think "hmm why is it hitching there".

I've also used multiple GPU's with both CPU's. 3090, 3060ti (backup for a while) and 7900XT. Resolution 3440x1440 ultrawide.

Temperatures are good on both CPU's, but I'm on a custom watercooling loop so it always would be.
 
Thanks both - yeah seems that it would be a bit of a sideways upgrade if anything… mixed results.

I’ve had no issues at all with the 5950x but I like a super silent machine, the cooler the CPU the better. I was thinking that something like the 7800x3d might provide a boost without all the heat… but I didn’t want to feel like windows was chugging or anything.

Again, noob question / comments - I can be humble about that :)
I’m sure you can run those cpus in 65 watt mode and not see much performance degradation. On my asus motherboard I think the setting is performance optimised = off.
 
The 7950X3D seems to be on sale at a few places (including here). But at £500ish I'm thinking I should just hold out for the inevitable 9950X3D.
 
Sub £300 7800X3Ds are where I start to get interested. Wait to see the 9000 performance, add on a bit in gaming for the x3d version and then decide :D
 
Sub £300 7800X3Ds are where I start to get interested. Wait to see the 9000 performance, add on a bit in gaming for the x3d version and then decide :D


I only paid £340 last year for my 7800X3D, it's such a great gaming CPU, so no need for me to upgrade for a long time, I have the latest BIOS update on my Asus board so could just install a 9xxx if I wanted to. I'll probably hold out until 10xxx series unless I get the spending urge :) .
 
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All I hope is the Zen 5 boot times are a lot better than Zen 4's. 40 second boot times in my eyes are unacceptable especially coming from Zen 3 :p

It is an odd one as my Legion Go albeit a bit different with a handheld but using Zen 4 boots into a fully loaded desktop from power button being pressed in sub 5 seconds, manually setting up RAM can also significantly reduce boot times on Zen 4 but also not all systems exhibit it without any real rhyme or reason I can see.
 
Well it’s official -

AMD Ryzen 9000 Series processors are ready to deliver world class gaming and creator performance.

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