AMD Zen 5 rumours

[humbug]

2 words: VAT.

That's 3 words

 

[Grim5]

2 words: VAT.

That's an acronym

 

[LtMatt]

CPU-Z of my 9950X https://valid.x86.fr/70mnjm

 

[humbug]

CPU-Z of my 9950X https://valid.x86.fr/70mnjm

That more than 2X the score of a 14900K, is that right?

 

[wookiee87]

My 9950x cpu-z bench test https://valid.x86.fr/q9p6ra

 

[G J]

That's the position in the leader board as my 13600K gets about 9.8K.

 

[Joxeon]

Would you actually use the better wraith prism cooler if they included it, or would it just be a bigger lump of metal that you throw in the bin? Both the wraith stealth and wraith prism are rubbish compared to a £15 tower cooler, it's time they got rid of the stock cooler altogether to reduce unnecessary waste.

I’d disagree, the prism is actually a very capable cooler, not the quietest by any means but can certainly do the job cooling even on the higher 105w tdp parts and even looks nice to boot.

They also sell for about £20 so regardless if you want it or not it’s a value add.

 

[MyBrainz]

CPU-Z of my 9950X https://valid.x86.fr/70mnjm

My 9950x cpu-z bench test https://valid.x86.fr/q9p6ra

I beat both of you with my rig.. in display quantity anyway

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D @ 4448.96 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[r3teuk] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2024-03-22 17:18:24) - MB: MSI X470 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (MS-7B78) - RAM: 32768 MB

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Those are seriously fast compared to my 5800X3D, ~50% Single & ~200% Multi?

Cant wait to upgrade again, Zen 6 is going to be a nice perf increase

 

[RSR]

That more than 2X the score of a 14900K, is that right?

What is twice the score?

As that's a KS downclocked to a 14900K single core boost removed - https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz/specifications.html

Intel Core i9 14900KS @ 5798.61 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[nzy4lu] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2024-08-26 00:06:32) - MB: Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE - RAM: 49152 MB

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[MyBrainz]

I’d disagree, the prism is actually a very capable cooler, not the quietest by any means but can certainly do the job cooling even on the higher 105w tdp parts and even looks nice to boot.

They also sell for about £20 so regardless if you want it or not it’s a value add.

Prism coolers were going for ~£45 (New) on the bay not so many years ago so thats a small loss to anyone who already has a decent cooler, which most of us do.

 

[RSR]

2 words: VAT.

Hi There….

 

[Journey]

Prism coolers were going for ~£45 (New) on the bay not so many years ago so thats a small loss to anyone who already has a decent cooler, which most of us do.

You know anyone that wants to buy 100+ Wraith Stealth coolers? They are taking up way too much space.

 

[MyBrainz]

You know anyone that wants to buy 100+ Wraith Stealth coolers? They are taking up way too much space.

Wow you're going through some CPU's

 

[Journey]

Wow you're going through some CPU's

I had a project I was doing, and couldn't get tray/OEM parts in time, so ended up with retail box CPU's but the coolers were no good for the chassis being used, so now they are in my garage collecting cobwebs.

 

[Eddie99]

I’d disagree, the prism is actually a very capable cooler, not the quietest by any means but can certainly do the job cooling even on the higher 105w tdp parts and even looks nice to boot.

They also sell for about £20 so regardless if you want it or not it’s a value add.

£20 is nuts for a cooler that is significantly outperformed by a £15 tower cooler. That said, it would still go in my bin because it would be about £15 after shipping and eBay fees and probably not worth the effort selling.

Do you use the cooler that came with your CPU? I'd bet that the majority of people don't, and even if they included a half decent tower cooler there would still be a significant percentage of people that want to upgrade or already have a better cooler. They can never satisfy everyone, but if they have to include a cooler then something smaller like the stealth would be less wasteful.

 

[Joxeon]

£20 is nuts for a cooler that is significantly outperformed by a £15 tower cooler. That said, it would still go in my bin because it would be about £15 after shipping and eBay fees and probably not worth the effort selling.

Do you use the cooler that came with your CPU? I'd bet that the majority of people don't, and even if they included a half decent tower cooler there would still be a significant percentage of people that want to upgrade or already have a better cooler. They can never satisfy everyone, but if they have to include a cooler then something smaller like the stealth would be less wasteful.

The prism is perfectly adequate for any 65w cpu, changing the cooler even for something like a D15 is not going to get you anymore performance on those CPUs especially in gaming and the prism is actually one of the best if not the best looking air cooler around.

 

[ICDP]

I see the price of the 7800X3D has gone up now everyone is buying it. Now £350 from OCUK

I got lucky then getting mine on sale for £308. This was mid July just before the Zen 5 release, so possibly a stock clearance sale waiting for the latest and greatest from AMD. I almost held fire anticipating the Zen 5 would be a lot better.

In essence Zen 5 is perfectly good and trades blows with a 7800X3D, but at 10% extra cost. It’s just the tiering and pricing. Typical AMD (Allow Mistakes Daily)

 

[G J]

What is twice the score?

As that's a KS downclocked to a 14900K single core boost removed - https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz/specifications.html

Intel Core i9 14900KS @ 5798.61 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[nzy4lu] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2024-08-26 00:06:32) - MB: Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE - RAM: 49152 MB

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I did not want to quote myself and get called a donk again but it's the position on the leaderboard that Humbugs is getting confused with not double the score as my 13600K gets very close to 10K multi threaded.

 

[ED209]

I got lucky then getting mine on sale for £308. This was mid July just before the Zen 5 release, so possibly a stock clearance sale waiting for the latest and greatest from AMD. I almost held fire anticipating the Zen 5 would be a lot better.

In essence Zen 5 is perfectly good and trades blows with a 7800X3D, but at 10% extra cost. It’s just the tiering and pricing. Typical AMD (Allow Mistakes Daily)

Yeah, I am in no rush so will wait it out or see if Black Friday sees any deals\offers on them

 

[humbug]

I did not want to quote myself and get called a donk again but it's the position on the leaderboard that Humbugs is getting confused with not double the score as my 13600K gets very close to 10K multi threaded.

Confused? the website is trash...