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If money is a factor it's better to go midrange and upgrade more often than high end and run it until it dies. You get more consistent performance too over time. Sell the old stuff whilst it still has value and move on ;)
I've seen quite a few times people buying the most amount of cores and usually let at least half of them sit idle because they're just gaming or only making full use of them now and again, what you said makes the most sense.

What will be capable of pushing 60-75fps in 2030? That is my question.
Nothing? Probably, unless you mean games light on the hardware.
 
You can get 8tb m.2’s and other than os there is no real benefit over sata ssd’s

But just to be clear I would gen a used board z470 or b550

I prefer to have say 1tb for os/ software and saperate bigger drive for games etc

Single 8tb m.2 costs more than 2 x 4tb m.2 drives, I recently bought gen 4 4tb m.2 for £150
 
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I prefer to have say 1tb for os/ software and saperate bigger drive for games etc

And that can be done with 1 m.2.
The bigger Ssd I was running 3x2tb Samsungs in my last build with 1x500gb m.2. The board had 3 m.2 slots but at that time a 1tb m.2 was the same cost as a 2bt sata
 
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I've seen quite a few times people buying the most amount of cores and usually let at least half of them sit idle because they're just gaming or only making full use of them now and again, what you said makes the most sense.


Nothing? Probably, unless you mean games light on the hardware.
My 3770k disagrees.
 
My 3770k disagrees.

You can’t buy a system now based on if you think it will still game in 2030.
There is no way to know what will happen in the next few years.

The cpu you have now come from a golden era where intel had no competition so until not too long ago 4c8t was still high end on a desktop computer so everything was optimised for that… now who know where we will be in 12 months never mind 7 years
 
You can’t buy a system now based on if you think it will still game in 2030.
There is no way to know what will happen in the next few years.

The cpu you have now come from a golden era where intel had no competition so until not too long ago 4c8t was still high end on a desktop computer so everything was optimised for that… now who know where we will be in 12 months never mind 7 years
I agree that my CPU comes from a "golden era" although it's golden only if you like stagnation, that said it's reasonable to infer that a good high end chip will last with decent performance at least 5 years (my core duo quad served reasonably well for 6 years before!) and since I tend to lag 2-3 years behind mainstream in gaming selection (hard bargain gamer here) I think it's more a matter of trying to understand if it will be either cores or performance per core that will degrade more gracefully.
 
I agree that my CPU comes from a "golden era" although it's golden only if you like stagnation, that said it's reasonable to infer that a good high end chip will last with decent performance at least 5 years (my core duo quad served reasonably well for 6 years before!) and since I tend to lag 2-3 years behind mainstream in gaming selection (hard bargain gamer here) I think it's more a matter of trying to understand if it will be either cores or performance per core that will degrade more gracefully.

Yea but based on that the guy needs to buy a 13900k or 7950x3d, he’s talking about mid range. If he as gotten a i5 3570k(mid range) it wouldn’t be working now. My lad just had to dump a i5 6600k as it didn’t game and was pinned at 100% in everything.

For longevity you need threads, and power.
The core count means nothing it threads. I would think you would need 16 plus to last 5 years.

The lad dumped a 6600k @4.7, so 4t but some power
It was replaced with a i7 6700 8t less power but now games fine, even though it’s still the same gen 4c’s
 
I still think you're better to buy midrange more often than try to make a high end CPU last 10 years. Selling the old gear to recoup some costs and not paying the premium price for the higher end chips and avoiding the troughs in performance. I used to be all about higher end must be better, which it is, but only if you also refresh more often which obviously is an expensive route to take.
 
I agree 100%

An i7 was say 200
An i5 was say 100

You could but the i5 run it 2 years the sell for 60 then if you wanted buy an i7 used for 80 meaning you have spent 120 not 200.

Plus this give you the options to say in 2 years, the cpu landscape as changed so much I’ll get a new platform and you did blow your load on a system day one.
 
I agree 100%

An i7 was say 200
An i5 was say 100

You could but the i5 run it 2 years the sell for 60 then if you wanted buy an i7 used for 80 meaning you have spent 120 not 200.

Plus this give you the options to say in 2 years, the cpu landscape as changed so much I’ll get a new platform and you did blow your load on a system day one.
Yes I've seen it happen, you buy high end and a new generation comes out and one of the lower end CPU's is beating the high end for significantly less. Look at lower end AM5 chips, surprisingly high performance for the money. I currently have a 7600 (non X) as the launch price of the high end was too much for me for the performance. By the time I think this chip is an issue the midrange of this gen (X3D) or the next will be significantly cheaper than at launch.
 
I still think you're better to buy midrange more often than try to make a high end CPU last 10 years. Selling the old gear to recoup some costs and not paying the premium price for the higher end chips and avoiding the troughs in performance. I used to be all about higher end must be better, which it is, but only if you also refresh more often which obviously is an expensive route to take.
I upgrade cpus more often than gpus
the 7800x3d has been the utmost amazing gaming experience as its so good.
Missing out on that would been sad.
 
The 7800X3D is a great CPU, more than I need at the moment. When I do I'll pick one up, or its replacement, playing POE atm which isn't that demanding.
 
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