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AMD Zen 5 rumours

Troezar said:
How much performance is lost to DDR4 vs DDR5?
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Most of the testing is 8 months old and only using 6000mhz loose ram, but it’s about 3-8% in that testing.

But if you was running newer 7600mhz good timing ram in north of 10%

The 7xxx 3D chips is where you need to be right now. Even with slower ram is ripping stuff up
 
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Wing-Man said:
Most of the testing is 8 months old and only using 6000mhz loose ram, but it’s about 3-8% in that testing.

But if you was running newer 7600mhz good timing ram in north of 10%

The 7xxx 3D chips is where you need to be right now. Even with slower ram is ripping stuff up
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That is a selling point, you don't need top end RAM to get the benefit. One reason I just bought a 6000MHz CL36 kit for my AM5 system, should be plenty with an X3D chip.
 
Zarax said:
7800x3d is tempting, however system VS system it's more expensive than 13700k with DDR4...
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If you're getting 13'th gen for gaming why would you get it with DDR4? its even slower with DDR4, its not like getting it with DDR4 is just a cheaper alternative vs DDR5, its objectively slower, significantly.

Might as well get a 5800X3D.
 
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humbug said:
If you're getting 13'th gen for gaming why would you get it with DDR4? its even slower with DDR4, its not like getting it with DDR4 is just a cheaper alternative vs DDR5, its objectively slower, significantly.

Might as well get a 5800X3D.
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Yes B650 motherboards have come right down. You could get a decent one now for £169 plus £125 for 32GB DDR5 6000 and £368 for a 7800X3D. £662 for a very fast PC with plenty of room for upgrades.
 
Troezar said:
Yes B650 motherboards have come right down. You could get a decent one now for £169 plus £125 for 32GB DDR5 6000 and £368 for a 7800X3D. £662 for a very fast PC with plenty of room for upgrades.
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Zen 5 board drop in, Ryzen 8000 is rumoured to be a monster, Zen 53D totally mental, And Zen 6..... yet another new core. This vs 3% on the blue side with the then 2'nd refresh of the same core, hasn't this story been told before?

Every new gen on the AMD side is a new significantly faster core while Intel re-brand the same cores over and over again, meh....
 
humbug said:
If you're getting 13'th gen for gaming why would you get it with DDR4? its even slower with DDR4, its not like getting it with DDR4 is just a cheaper alternative vs DDR5, its objectively slower, significantly.

Might as well get a 5800X3D.
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I keep hearing this but haven't found reliable benchmarks, do you have any good links that aren't youtube tirades?
 
Zarax said:
You'd be surprised at how many machine learning algorithms are still single core...

Ok, do you have any source for your claim?
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5800x3d is purely gaming CPU imo , I wouldnt be looking to buy it if you also need to do other stuff, and intel single core is really good for ddr4 I feel its pretty simple and thats intel
 
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humbug said:
Watch more than the first two games...
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Ok, averages does show an improvement, however it compares cheap DDR4 VS higher end DDR5...
If I use a 64GB 5600 kit (with a more reasonable price) it's over 100€ more than a 3200 kit and that's not including motherboard price difference.

Interesting thing, the OC3D link I sent before gives opposite results for some games that are in common.
 
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