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AMD Zen 5 rumours

Someone said on here yesterday that there was a rumour going around that AMD's next cpu's will be launched around April, do we know if this is true yet? Do we even have a rough estimate of the launch date? The reason I ask is that I have got a really bad upgrade itch and it's worsening. I almost pulled the trigger on a 7800x3d/X670E/32Gb DDR5 6400 C32 on Monday and then Tuesday but backed down at the last moment. I don't really need to upgrade although my cpu and gpu are both running at 99% load when playing Horizon Zero Dawn at 1440p, it's just a severe itch, probably the biggest I have ever had. I could drop a new Intel cpu in my Z690 board but I just can't live with the ridiculous power draw of their "K" cpu's so it's time to jump ship and switch to AMD and have some future upgrade potential.
 
I would say April is quite probable, but Zen5 non-3d will probably not be better than 7800x3d in games. Downside is that AMD past gen processors usually are almost worthless on secondary market(apart from the last gen available in a given socket), so buying 7800x3d and changing to 8xxx3d will result in quite a big hit £ wise.
 
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pastymuncher said:
Someone said on here yesterday that there was a rumour going around that AMD's next cpu's will be launched around April, do we know if this is true yet? Do we even have a rough estimate of the launch date? The reason I ask is that I have got a really bad upgrade itch and it's worsening. I almost pulled the trigger on a 7800x3d/X670E/32Gb DDR5 6400 C32 on Monday and then Tuesday but backed down at the last moment. I don't really need to upgrade although my cpu and gpu are both running at 99% load when playing Horizon Zero Dawn at 1440p, it's just a severe itch, probably the biggest I have ever had. I could drop a new Intel cpu in my Z690 board but I just can't live with the ridiculous power draw of their "K" cpu's so it's time to jump ship and switch to AMD and have some future upgrade potential.
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I would agree with the above, Ryzen 7000 series is quite old now, launched 27'th September 2022, AMD's CPU release cadence is 12 to 18 months, April seems on the money to me.
 
How are things currently with the boot times. I've been a bit out of the loop on the 7xxx gen's progress on that. I think it was as far as there being solutions but they hosed the memory timings on "wake up"? Any word on Zen 5 improving on that?
I've always avoided the first gen on a new socket as there's always SOMETHING that's a bit sticky/annoying to start with.
 
Mercutio said:
How are things currently with the boot times. I've been a bit out of the loop on the 7xxx gen's progress on that. I think it was as far as there being solutions but they hosed the memory timings on "wake up"? Any word on Zen 5 improving on that?
I've always avoided the first gen on a new socket as there's always SOMETHING that's a bit sticky/annoying to start with.
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Zen5 boot time CAN be slow, and that is 99% because of DDR5 memory training.
Enabling Memory Context Restore removes this issue and boot times are quite decent.
All memory timings and performance is kept. But there is a cost of having to also enable Power Down mode for DDR5, which affects AIDA64 latency a bit.

First boot after tweaking memory timings/frequencies is still going to be slow, and slower the more memory you have
 
alec said:
Zen5 boot time CAN be slow, and that is 99% because of DDR5 memory training.
Enabling Memory Context Restore removes this issue and boot times are quite decent.
All memory timings and performance is kept. But there is a cost of having to also enable Power Down mode for DDR5, which affects AIDA64 latency a bit.

First boot after tweaking memory timings/frequencies is still going to be slow, and slower the more memory you have
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I tried this and oddly the system reboots when it is enabled and plays fine with it disabled. Not had chance to have a proper test yet.
 
ImMrChris said:
I was going to upgrade to zen 4 but I’ll wait if zen 5 is due out in a few months
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yeah definitely wait, just recently got 7950x3d and then only to find out they releasing in 2/3 months. The Zen 5 x3d processors should be out more towards the end of the year(sep-nov) time frame. Not possible to say 100%. But definitely wait, i will belike appx 15% performance increase, maybe even more.
 
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Stanners said:
I tried this and oddly the system reboots when it is enabled and plays fine with it disabled. Not had chance to have a proper test yet.
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1. Check your Power Down setting, thats pretty much what happens when MCR is on and PD is off
ImMrChris said:
I was going to upgrade to zen 4 but I’ll wait if zen 5 is due out in a few months
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reasonable
Latest MLID info is that Zen5 might be announced on Computex. But probably released later in Q3
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
MLID is the youtube equivalent of a broken clock.
Say every rumour around, ignore the many that you get wrong and remind everyone of the ones that were right. Top strategy.
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He's puting out Battlemage rumours again, placing its performance at, and i quote "between 3070 and 4070 Super" right so any one of about 5 performance levels then? Why couldn't i guess that?
 
humbug said:
He's puting out Battlemage rumours again, placing its performance at, and i quote "between 3070 and 4070 Super" right so any one of about 5 performance levels then? Why couldn't i guess that?
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And he wants to just ignore the dozen videos he made a year ago saying Battlemage has been cancelled and Intel's discrete GPU division has been shut down
 
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