AMD Zen 5 rumours

[ooStevo]

You still on old fashioned ADSL? I thought everywhere had fibre at least now.

Assuming you meant 9Mb/s there (bits not Bytes), as your upload suggests ADSL too.

I get 9 megabytes per second actual down speed. And about 400kb/s up speed. That's what 'cough' uTorrent reads. I'm in a block of flats so not much choice for me really. I could get it faster, but I'm honestly fine with it.

 

[alec]

desktop CPU stack is pretty well priced TBH

NOW it is
At release time it wasn't. And when combined with high motherboard and DDR5 pricing made Zen4 feel too expensive.

 

[David Bisset]

You still on old fashioned ADSL? I thought everywhere had fibre at least now.

Assuming you meant 9Mb/s there (bits not Bytes), as your upload suggests ADSL too.

ADSL remains the only option in a bunch of places - both my parents are on it as there is no FTTC/FTTP option at all for either. Granted they're both to varying degrees remote but even here in Edinburgh not everywhere has the option of fibre anything (though getting pretty close to universally available now, provided you count any >24Mbps). A wee look at this suggests there are a lot of notspots nationwide: https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map#6/53.357/-1.472/nonsuperfast/

 

[Grim5]

Zen 5 X has the same amount of cache as Zen 4 so the 3D will probably also have the same amount.

AMD was testing and released engineering samples of the 7950x3d with 192mb

 

[bakes0310]

My 7800x3d and 7900xtx is getting close to 140fps in most games at 1440p. I don't think these CPUs are for me or the x3d. I'll probably be back in 2027 to upgrade to the last x3d chips along with a possible GPU upgrade.
Great to see what AM5 is achieving so far though.

 

[Marak]

ADSL remains the only option in a bunch of places - both my parents are on it as there is no FTTC/FTTP option at all for either. Granted they're both to varying degrees remote but even here in Edinburgh not everywhere has the option of fibre anything (though getting pretty close to universally available now, provided you count any >24Mbps). A wee look at this suggests there are a lot of notspots nationwide: https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map#6/53.357/-1.472/nonsuperfast/

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. I had to organise my estate to chip in and get BT to upgrade our exchange to fibre back in 2018/19. Got it in a few months before covid hit so helped a lot of us out with regards to working from home.

 

[Capitano]

any ideas on when we can see some reviews on these, embargo date perhaps?

 

[Donnie Fisher]

I think you’ll see stuff appear in the 1-2 weeks before availability date

 

[jigger]

NOW it is
At release time it wasn't. And when combined with high motherboard and DDR5 pricing made Zen4 feel too expensive.

I didn’t think it was. I’ve always thought AMD had its CPU pricing about where it needed to be. Motherboard and memory pricing is out of AMDs hands.

 

[Boomstick777]

Looking forward to a new AMD CPU to replace my R9 7900X, feels like I've had it for ages now. Think I'm going to wait for the 9800X3D or 9900X3D, will those be next year?

 

[Capitano]

I think you’ll see stuff appear in the 1-2 weeks before availability date

awesome, release is said to be July so we shouldnt be too far off.

mostly intrigued to see how this is going to perform against the last gen x3d chips, intel's higher core chips and the best from ARM

exciting times!

 

[JediFragger]

Looking forward to a new AMD CPU to replace my R9 7900X, feels like I've had it for ages now. Think I'm going to wait for the 9800X3D or 9900X3D, will those be next year?

If it's for a gaming machine then ffs use your head and don't go for a 2xCCD chip.

 

[Boomstick777]

If it's for a gaming machine then ffs use your head and don't go for a 2xCCD chip.

Yeah the X3D chips by design seem so much better for gaming, I think I'll just go with the 8 core 9800X3D, or do you think the 9900X3D might not have the same drawbacks?

 

[JediFragger]

Yeah the X3D chips by design seem so much better for gaming, I think I'll just go with the 8 core 9800X3D, or do you think the 9900X3D might not have the same drawbacks?

They only tend to put the 3D-cache on one CCD so if it has to swap over for some reason you get some penalties. I myself will be waiting for Zen6 3D's as the CCD's are rumoured to be switching to 16c (and maybe even a new socket for DDR6) which will be perfect

 

[mikeym]

Out of the loop for a while but planning a new build. Ideally waiting for X870 mb and X3D CPU variant - guess there's no real information on when the latter might arrive? Saw the question was asked above but didn't notice an answer...

 

[Noxia]

They only tend to put the 3D-cache on one CCD so if it has to swap over for some reason you get some penalties. I myself will be waiting for Zen6 3D's as the CCD's are rumoured to be switching to 16c (and maybe even a new socket for DDR6) which will be perfect

That sounds like a good upgrade point for me too.

 

[Boomstick777]

They only tend to put the 3D-cache on one CCD so if it has to swap over for some reason you get some penalties. I myself will be waiting for Zen6 3D's as the CCD's are rumoured to be switching to 16c (and maybe even a new socket for DDR6) which will be perfect

Ah really, so that would be a legit 16 core without the penalty of two CCD's. An X3D 16 core chip seems worth waiting for, I may do the same.

 

[jigger]

Ah really, so that would be a legit 16 core without the penalty of two CCD's. An X3D 16 core chip seems worth waiting for, I may do the same.

Possibly, but AMD will likely have further developed X3D.

 

[Joxeon]

AMD seem to be selling like hot cakes. I think the desktop CPU stack is pretty well priced TBH. It’s allowing for big jumps in performance and innovation through R&D while keeping AMD reasonably healthy financially.

Zen 4 sales only after picked up after the price drops kicked in, at release the sales were very poor.

 

[jigger]

Zen 4 sales only after picked up after the price drops kicked in, at release the sales were very poor.

Seem to remember it very differently.