Caporegime
ouch... no delid AMD CPU's, they don't need it anyway, they don't use crappy tim, they are soldered.
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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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ouch... no delid AMD CPU's, they don't need it anyway, they don't use crappy tim, they are soldered.
Soldato
They'll be using idium solder, probably on the lower SKU as well - same as Intel HEDT. Mainstream CPU don't get the same treatment on Intel's side, but AMD currently don't have to worry about the same things that Intel do from a PR perspective. Have to be being seen to help the environment (yawn).
Soldato
You're on the wrong forum.
Associate
The days where the 1GHz and 1.2GHz thunderbirds were the same CPU with diff multiplier settings has passed, overclocking is more complicated these days and even round here most people can't be bothered with it.
These days I prefer rock solid stability over an extra couple of FPS.
--------------->>> stockclockers.com
Soldato
I agree, but performance is rarely freeI agree, but a little free perf is always welcome
Caporegime
Well then you have missed how both the Core i7 4790K and Core i7 7700K are essentially pre-overclocked SKUs from Intel with only a relatively small percentage overclock headroom.
Compare that to a Core i5 2500K which was comparatively underclocked.
The fact is if you need an expensive motherboard to get those maximum overclocks on any CPU,its not really worth just for a 10% increase over boost clockspeeds.
If I was getting a Core i7 7700K today,I probably would not bother with an expensive motherboard and just run it at all cores Turbo.
Some of us have been overclocking CPUs back even 12 years ago(or more) and there is a big difference from getting a Q6600 to 3GHZ~3.6GHZ from a base clockspeed of 2.4GHZ,or a 1.8GHZ E4300 to 3.1GHZ or higher than a Core i7 7700K which can be run at 4.5GHZ all cores Turbo in a cheaper motherboard,but to get to 5GHZ you need one of the better CPUs and a more expensive motherboard.
It hardly makes much a real-world difference.
They did use tim, in skt 939/754, am2.
In am3+ all fx ihs were soldered but not all am3+
All apu's used tim until godaveri and carrizo
Not complicated at all
In am3+ all fx ihs were soldered but not all am3+
All apu's used tim until godaveri and carrizo
Not complicated at all
Caporegime
Your on the wrong forum too then. We want max overclocks!
I am on the right forum - you need to remember some of us oldies remember why overclocking was a big deal.
Cheap CPUs with huge overclocks matching more expensive CPUs - the problem is overclocking by 10% is fine and dandy but now Intel and AMD has made overclocking a paid for feature.
You want to try some fun - I had a high VID Q6600 in a 975X based Shuttle with a modified Shuttle stock cooler.
That was very interesting overclocking that and keeping it cool in a tiny chassis. Still got 3GHZ~ 3.2GHZ out of it IIRC.
The same goes with graphics card - I remember how much my HD5850 overclocked,from 725MHZ to 950MHZ. You rarely get the same performance boost with many modern graphics cards via overclocking.
Edit!!
In fact the last exciting Intel overclocking CPU was the Core i5 6400 BCLK overclocked due to that bug.
Associate
They should release a special "overclockers dream" SKU. Same as an 1800X just running at 2.8GHz out of the box. You can have all the fun of getting it to 4.2 yourself 
Associate
My old B3 stepping was a space heater, brilliant fun! I bought it when everyone was saying to get an E6600 as more cores were a waste
I remember those well......Ahh man, My Celeron 300A , that was a beast, knocked the stuffing out of a PII450
Soldato
With any luck that's what the 1700 isThey should release a special "overclockers dream" SKU. Same as an 1800X just running at 2.8GHz out of the box. You can have all the fun of getting it to 4.2 yourself
Caporegime
My old B3 stepping was a space heater, brilliant fun! I bought it when everyone was saying to get an E6600 as more cores were a waste
Such a brave person - the B3 was deffo worse than the later G0 I had with regards to power consumption,heat,etc.
The main issue is that the 975X was a sub-optimal chipset for a Q6600,and since the Shuttle was a custom cooler using a custom mounting system,I had to be creative with modding the cooler.
So at one pointed I had the Q6600 overclocked and the HD5850 overclocking by nearing 30% and the amount of heat that was being venting out of the back and out of the side was quite substantial. This is how small the case was:
https://content.hwigroup.net/images/products_xl/001648/4/shuttle-sd37p2.jpg
Although before the Q6600,I had an E4300 and a E4500 and the first CPU in it was a Pentium D 805. I kind of tried overclocking the last one,but got a bit scared.