*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[cheesyboy]

There are also some notable reviewer absences, TPU, Toms Hardware, PCPer, jayz2cents... are they still grappling with BIOS updates?

Pc per has their review online.

So do Tom's

I'm still waiting on TechReport, though

 

[Omega]

I've just cancelled my OcuK order as i managed to find the parts elsewhere and they are shipping today. Hopefully i will be building the system on Saturday.

It's sad that it has to come to that I may have to do the same.

 

[Martini1991]

@Martini1991 when you get yours do us an independent review plz.

I won't be able to get one for a while.
There's plenty of people here who should be buying one though.

1700 is where I'm going though.

 

[LtMatt]

It's sad that it has to come to that I may have to do the same.

I always buy here if they have stock, just for the smooth rma process with Bailey. However I'm going to be without a desktop system come Saturday and that affects work and pleasure.

 

[labbby]

I always buy here if they have stock, just for the smooth rma process with Bailey. However I'm going to be without a desktop system come Saturday and that affects work and pleasure.

but but Ocuk are the Alpha partners of AMD apparently haha

 

[jigger]

People were apparently expecting this chip to sodomize intel and pee on its corpse after setting it on fire. As of now the jury is still out considering the randomness of the benchmarks.

It has.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

People were apparently expecting this chip to sodomize intel and pee on its corpse after setting it on fire. As of now the jury is still out considering the randomness of the benchmarks.

Its not even that - if it was another BD it might have been meh,and move along.

The CPU has potential but as TH said the launch was very rushed - Hardware.fr in their games test said the average regression was 10% with SMT.

So with SMT it would mean the R7 1800X would match a Core i7 4790K in their test suite,ie,the Core i7 6900K would only be 10% ahead. How could they not spot this after so many months of internal testing??

Its the annoyance at AMD doing another rushed CPU or GPU launch and underselling a potentially decent product.

Its like clutching defeat from the jaws of victory. Look at the R9 290X.

AMD.AMD never changes.

 

[old gamer]

Although the stages have moved through to completion in about half an hour instead of a few months. I went out to do a job in the middle of a grief spin and come back to a chirpy content glow.

for a moment I thought about cancelling my order but having time to think on it I decided to carry on, I'm sure things will improve with bios and windows updates

 

[eddyr]

This is vert telling the speed differences and still neck and neck

Those results are quite wide outliers, they even counter what AMD has stated Ryzen performance to be. Points to an error on his part.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Some very dodgy reviews floating around, I'm going to avoid being cynical and believe the reviews favouring the AMD chip in games, those differences in minimums could be a huge benefit too!

 

[LtMatt]

but but Ocuk are the Alpha partners of AMD apparently haha

Don't think it's OcuK's fault, just one of those things with logistics.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

WHAT THE **** AMD:

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-and-1700-processor-review_191753/15

You hit the nail on the head on all your comments. I really wish the Windows drivers were ready before we were given the parts to review. Instead we got a statement 24 hours before launch from AMD saying that they'll be coming in 30 days if all goes well. Game optimizations will be hit or miss when they come, but they appear to be coming. That takes time though and we'll see what happens.

I put it in the conclusion on the last page. The quote came direct from AMD's John Taylor. There was talk of it coming with Ryzen 5 and then they said 'in the next month' in an official statement that was e-mailed out last night.

What is wrong with you??

You launch when it is obvious games have SMT issues,and now this??

The reviews are already out there - this is the R9 290X MK2.

 

[Spyhop]

The support page for the ASUS Prime X370 Pro motherboard finally has some content on it, including BIOSes in the 'Driver & Tools' section:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/HelpDesk/

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

All I can say so far about how this launch was done can be summed up by one picture.

 

[harney]

for a moment I thought about cancelling my order but having time to think on it I decided to carry on, I'm sure things will improve with bios and windows updates

agree

 

[eddyr]

WHAT THE **** AMD:

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-and-1700-processor-review_191753/15





What is wrong with you??

You launch when it is obvious games have SMT issues,and now this??

The reviews are already out there - this is the R9 290X MK2.

Speculation: sounds like AMD were happy for HEDT level chip launch to go ahead on the basis that the fixes would coincide with round 2 of reviews with their 4c/6c chips.

 

[KingDazza]

Some very dodgy reviews floating around, I'm going to avoid being cynical and believe the reviews favouring the AMD chip in games, those differences in minimums could be a huge benefit too!

Yeah some reviews are all over the place. I guess its a bit like game reviews. Try and stick with a site you trust.

 

[labbby]

WHAT THE **** AMD:

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-and-1700-processor-review_191753/15





What is wrong with you??

You launch when it is obvious games have SMT issues,and now this??

The reviews are already out there - this is the R9 290X MK2.

Typical AMD it's like they do the hard work and forget about the obvious things and let themselves down.

 

[harney]

WHAT THE **** AMD:

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-and-1700-processor-review_191753/15





What is wrong with you??

You launch when it is obvious games have SMT issues,and now this??

The reviews are already out there - this is the R9 290X MK2.

The power is there ...its just hidden away in a box that AMD forgot to open upon release

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Speculation: sounds like AMD were happy for HEDT level chip launch to go ahead on the basis that the fixes would coincide with round 2 of reviews with their 4c/6c chips.

Typical AMD it's like they do the hard work and forget about the obvious things and let themselves down.

This launch is just painful - first if SMT was disabled gaming benchmarks would have been better and now we know the OS does not even support it properly.

I honestly don't know WTF is happening with AMD in the last couple of years.