*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[Scramz]

Fixed cold bug, lose some gaming perf in the process.

 

[TheBiznes]

4.2ghz is highest overclock on 1700.

I don't really understand so much disappointment. The 1700 looks strong though some things are wrong which will be sorted.
Good spot on the SMT point, Temps on 1800x look bad full load. 1700 still looks really good and value though I still am not sure which board best suited to this chip value performance wise.
BIOS will sort itself out soon. More reviews will come of 1700 as most had the 1800x to review.

 

[Scramz]

Then why havent I ever had any stutters and I've put 100's of hours into GTAV?

You have a quantum computer?

 

[jigger]

AMD have a better motherboard platform than soc 1151 and 2011 combined and AM4 is with us for 5 years. Not to mention AMD are half the price. Unless both of those situations change AMD are better by a long way.

 

[Gerard]

4.2ghz is highest overclock on 1700.

I don't really understand so much disappointment.

People were apparently expecting this chip to sodomize intel and pee on its corpse after setting it on fire. As of now the jury is still out considering the randomness of the benchmarks.

 

[Omega]

Indeed weren't we told that Ocuk were the place to go for AMD because they had some sort of deal with them for a large amount of stock and early delivery ? haha

Yep I ordered it with OCUK with this expectation too... if it isnt' arriving tomorrow an expected ETA would be nice as we're not exactly dropping a small amount of cash here!

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I'm sorry, but i can tell you for a fact that on both GTAV and ROTTR which I own and play, I have never had frames drop below 60 or ever have any stuttering at all. And I run both fully maxed. I'm not trying to dismiss reviews, but his findings just aren't accurate.

Having played both a lot, I got plenty of dips at times with my 5820K and SLI 980Tis

 

[Jon20]

So whens the 1800x in stock ?

ETA is saying 17th March on the store, would hope that's for a second batch and not the first.

 

[robj20]

Indeed weren't we told that Ocuk were the place to go for AMD because they had some sort of deal with them for a large amount of stock and early delivery ? haha

Alpha something or other wasn't it. More expensive than others as well.

 

[humbug]

There are also some notable reviewer absences, TPU, Toms Hardware, PCPer, jayz2cents... are they still grappling with BIOS updates?

 

[Gerard]

There are also some notable reviewer absences, TPU, Toms Hardware, PCPer, jayz2cents... are they still grappling with BIOS updates?

Pc per has their review online.

 

[alexp999]

Well my Crosshair has just shipped, got to wait for OCUK to get some 1800X CPUs now...

 

[Nutella33]

this reminds me of a typical amd release, loads of hype, then disappointment then after the dust has settled everyone realises well its not too bad after all

Although the stages have moved through to completion in about half an hour instead of a few months. I went out to do a job in the middle of a grief spin and come back to a chirpy content glow.

 

[Davedree]

With the rysen cpu-z 1.78 leak it's not clear of the turbo speed during the st and mt test,
The baseclock is identified as 3.450 ghz but we need to see a prinout of per core speeds.
Still snifing at 1900 st is pretty good if it's at 3.7ghz for st. My I5 3570k at 3.8ghz st would get 1650.
If the ryzen can get into the 2100's around 4.0ghz-4.2ghz then i'll be impressed.

at 4.1 ghz it scores 2411 here, https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_1800x_processor_review,23.html

 

[LtMatt]

I've just cancelled my OcuK order as i managed to find the parts elsewhere and they are shipping today. Hopefully i will be building the system on Saturday.

 

[labbby]

Alpha something or other wasn't it. More expensive than others as well.

That's it the Alpha retailer for AMD cpu's and AM4 motherboards..

It will be interesting because i ordered mine about 2 minutes after they went up for sale.. Although I did make fun of 8pack a bit so i probably got put to the back of the queue

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I think it's because the big sites use semi-automated/unattended test setups, so they are a pain to update.

Indie's probably do it all like we would and have the latest software/firmware/updates and best settings for each.

Aye what I'm thinking here.

I don't always agree with ole Joker, but I've always been able to replicate his performance with my setup and GPUs; and he and other little independents are getting much better gaming performance for some reason.

 

[darket]

this reminds me of a typical amd release, loads of hype, then disappointment then after the dust has settled everyone realises well its not too bad after all

I got slammed for this in another thread, but this release is exactly what i expected, the hype got to hysterical levels to the point that some people could only be disappointed, in reality its a great release for Amd and for the cpu market in general, anyone cancelling their pre-orders because it doesn't beat Kabylake in all gaming scenarios have only themselves to blame. Well done Amd !

 

[jigger]

Its disappointing when SMT losses 10% of the performance in games in the Hardware.fr review,ie,the Core i7 6900K is only 10% ahead with SMT disabled.

Its just how AMD always has some bug or issue during a launch - if they were more open about it the CPU would have looked better in gaming benchmarks.

We had that problem with hyperthreading on the i7's. Games will need patching for Ryzen like they always do and motherboards will need BIOS updates from the looks of it.

 

[KingDazza]

You have a quantum computer.

Lol. The only reviews I ever see show minimums way higher than 60fps and certainly not 22fps.